View Poll Results: Who's decision is an abortion?

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  • Equally between both parents

    55 45.08%
  • Father

    1 0.82%
  • Mother

    40 32.79%
  • Specialist (e.g. Doctor)

    5 4.10%
  • Abortion should not be legal, therefore it does not matter.

    21 17.21%
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Thread: Abortion: Whose Choice?

  1. #1

    Default Abortion: Whose Choice?

    Reading over http://www.adisc.org/forum/mature-to...-abortion.html again, I realized this never really got solved.

    Without getting into a debate on whether abortion itself is wrong, whose choice is it for an abortion to be performed?

    My post already brought this up a bit:


    I think that is should be a choice for both the man and the woman. I don't believe it is fair if the woman doesn't want the kid and the man does. Yes, the woman has to carry the baby for nine months. She could have used contraceptives. Obviously this doesn't include rape, since the father probably won't be arguing to keep the baby and incriminate himself. If it were my kid and I had the ability to support it and my partner didn't want it then I would be pissed if she had an abortion. If it's completely up to the woman to KEEP the baby she is 100% responsible for it also. Being able to say "The man only contributed one cell, I need to carry it for nine months" completely contradicts "the baby is half yours, so you need to support it too". It can't work both ways.
    I'd also like to add to this ChildishDaze's point that was something along the lines of 9 months being only a small portion of the 18 years that is generally considered "raising" the child.

    Some parents go even beyond that. My brother is 19 and is still basically supported by my parents, equally. I would argue that you contribute to raising your offspring from the time they are born until the time one of you die. It's not like you'll stop giving advice and helping them out once they hit the magic 18.
    Last edited by Zephy; 18-Jul-2010 at 16:53. Reason: I was tired...

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    Ishav

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    I prefer the idea of adoption. However it should be both equally.

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    Kratos

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    I feel like this is a grayish field, and it should be the mother's choice.

    1st trimester: Legal
    2nd trimester: Legal
    3rd trimester: Illegal unless mother's life is endangered.
    Rape: Legal until 10 months have passed.

  4. #4

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    I was adopted and I would have been really pissed off if my birth mom had gotten an abortion. Okay, I guess I wouldn't have been pissed off because I never would have existed. But would I have been born from a different mother at a different time and place? Are we just chemicals and elements, or are we more? I think that most girls/women know where babies come from and how. If you want to play and get pregnant, the least you can do is have the child and put it up for adoption if you don't want it. Abortion is a horrible form of birth control. No matter what one believes, when that baby comes out, it is a life, one that has a right to grow up into an adult and experience the same joys and pains as everyone else.

  5. #5

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    I say abortion is exactly the same as murder. There are rare cases where it's justifiable, (self-defence) but other than that it's NO ONE'S right to decide.
    Very very touchy subject, hopefully this post doesn't make anyone angry, just giving my opinion.










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    Quote Originally Posted by Descolada View Post
    I say abortion is exactly the same as murder. There are rare cases where it's justifiable, (self-defence) but other than that it's NO ONE'S right to decide.
    Very very touchy subject, hopefully this post doesn't make anyone angry, just giving my opinion.


    Okay so if I got raped and got pregnant it is my duty to sacrifice 9 months of my life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogboy View Post
    I was adopted and I would have been really pissed off if my birth mom had gotten an abortion. Okay, I guess I wouldn't have been pissed off because I never would have existed. But would I have been born from a different mother at a different time and place? Are we just chemicals and elements, or are we more? I think that most girls/women know where babies come from and how. If you want to play and get pregnant, the least you can do is have the child and put it up for adoption if you don't want it. Abortion is a horrible form of birth control. No matter what one believes, when that baby comes out, it is a life, one that has a right to grow up into an adult and experience the same joys and pains as everyone else.
    Your post completely ignores what I asked. There's an entire thread devoted to whether or not abortion itself should be allowed, and it is still open if you want to voice your opinion. I put an option in the poll because I figured some people wouldn't like any other choice. I'm trying to get people's opinions on who gets to make the decision about whether an abortion should be performed assuming that they ARE legal.



    Quote Originally Posted by Descolada View Post
    I say abortion is exactly the same as murder. There are rare cases where it's justifiable, (self-defence) but other than that it's NO ONE'S right to decide.
    Very very touchy subject, hopefully this post doesn't make anyone angry, just giving my opinion.

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    Your manual sig because you can't wait is annoying when you get quoted, FYI.

    What do you mean "self-defence"? Like, rape? Or like the baby learned kung-fu and is ripping you apart piece by piece?

  8. #8

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    Sorry. Some polls record each respondent and how they responded. I said Doctor because there are good and valid medical reasons for having an abortion. Unlike some members, I respect the wisdom of doctors, and in this case, to determine whether a girl can physically and emotionally carry a child 9 months to term. I could further explain but then that would wander from your restrictive parameters. Looking back at other responders, they did exactly the same, so I was merely following suit.

  9. #9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandy View Post
    Okay so if I got raped and got pregnant it is my duty to sacrifice 9 months of my life?
    Would you rather sacrifice the life of a living being, that despite the circumstances of his/her conception, has a legitimate chance of living a full, successfull life if left alone?




    Quote Originally Posted by Zephiel View Post
    ...What do you mean "self-defence"? Like, rape? Or like the baby learned kung-fu and is ripping you apart piece by piece?
    I meant when the birth of the child threatens the life of the mother, which sadly happens.




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  10. #10

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    I think it should be a choice made by both parents, if I get some chick knocked up and I can afford to raise the child then regardless of what the mother wants I should be aloud to have it. I also think abortion should be used by governments for population control, but that's another story.

    My problem with the doctor thing is if the parents want the kid why does it matter if it has a medical defect, unless said defect would insure the death of the child at a very early age.

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