abdl and US army?

So ive been considering joining some branch of the US military for a while now, and i just wonder how i could possibly express any littleness and or have baby stuff like sippys and pacis. It would be incredibly hard to hide it if I lived in the military housing thats provided, if I really wanted to wear diapers I would definitely have to get my own space. The stress of Basics alone would be enough to make me want little time. Idk I just see myself becoming very frustrated after a while, and these definitely a zero chance of any little stuff if I were deployed

So i guess the ultimate question would be: am I willing to give up abdl/little time for a sound career? at least for a few years? its a tough decision

Is anyone here a veteran or currently serving? Id love to hear your opinion and thoughts!


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I joined the Marines, greatly in part of a massive purge cycle and thinking they could change me enough to "get over" liking diapers. It doesn't work.

I was somewhat spared the embarrassment of when (not if) my c.o. found my diaper stash during a random inspection. This was because I also had a legitimate need for diapers after developing urge incontinence, and my doctor already knew about them. Of which I later found out my c.o. confirmed with my doctor.

Do not think for a moment that you will be able to hide having diapers or ab stuff while in the military. Even after you rate your own off-base house/apartment, they will still drop by unexpectadely for randomized inspections.

The biggest question is one only you can answer: are you willing to potentially give up all or nearly all ABDL activities for the term(s) of your service? Are you truly willing to accept that most of your civil rights will be held in abeyance while you're serving? Keep in mind the military is a very different culture and society to the civilian world; acts that are seen as irresponsible for a civilian can be serious crimes in the military. My favorite example here is being late to work. As a civvie, you can get chewed out, put on probation, possibly even fired. But that's the end of it. While Active Duty, you might get chewed out. Or you might get arrested and convicted for violation of Article 87 of UCMJ.

Think long and hard about if you're truly willing to surrender many of the privileges and rights of daily life. I don't wish to discourage you from serving, I want you to make a fully informed decision.

As for the ABDL stuff: a lot will depend on which branch and specialty you have and where you're assigned. Full stop, anyone assigned to a ship isn't going to have the time, space, or privacy to engage in any sort of ABDL behaviors. Contrariwise, a Commissioned Officer assigned to an Ashore Administrative billet might be able to indulge nearly every night if she so desires. The reasons the later might be true are things such as likely renting her own place and usually non-time critical nature of administrative duties. That is, if doesn't make a large difference if review of travel claims for today was Mar 13 - 21 or Mar 13 - 22. Provided it all gets completed in a timely manner, a day or two one way or another isn't critical. Conversely, as crewman aboard ship, it can make a massive difference if it takes you 2.5 minutes or 3 minutes to get to your damage control billet.

tldr; think hard about joining, ability to be ABDL and Active Duty requires to many variables to assess easily.

One other good point to make, is that the military does a really good job keeping you busy. This is a good way to distract us from our abdl desires- for a time.

If you're determined to be in the military more than you are wanting to purge being abdl (which again, doesn't work), then you just might be able to suffer no diapers for the typical 4 year enlistement period.

Traemo said:

My favorite example here is being late to work. As a civvie, you can get chewed out, put on probation, possibly even fired. But that's the end of it. While Active Duty, you might get chewed out. Or you might get arrested and convicted for violation of Article 87 of UCMJ.

As for the ABDL stuff: a lot will depend on which branch and specialty you have and where you're assigned..

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Traemo, thanks for the comment!thank you for trying to give more information to help me make a fully informed decision. It shed some light, I never really thought about the possibility of being out right arrested for minor things that would seem normal as a civilian.

I plan on joining the airforce, but im still unsure of what career to take. My options are limited, due to the fact that I am female and have a learning disability (dyslexia). Most of the careers/ jobs I'm interested in don't allow those factors, which is rather annoying.

do you know what the government/military would do if they found any traces of my interest in abdl on any website? if anything at all? I keep all my personal accounts completely separate from accounts such as this one.

again, thank you

OriginalT, I left you another post describing my diapered experience while in the Marines. IF the admins approve that post, give it a read.

You could join the "non branch" and become a coastie and if caught say you were making your own coast and doing a port call !

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I don't know what about US Army and being ABDL, but I'm preety sure than if someone is discovered, so sure will be fired out for "some mental issue."

Tetra said:

You could join the "non branch" and become a coastie and if caught say you were making your own coast and doing a port call !

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Mind expanding on that "non-branch" thing?

CrazySmoker said:

I don't know what about US Army and being ABDL, but I'm preety sure than if someone is discovered, so sure will be fired out for "some mental issue."

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The term is "Discharged." Unlike most employment contracts, in this case the employee has no ability to end the term of service.

As for being discovered, it's unlikely to result in a Medical Discharge for mental health, unless the circumstances around that event suggest a much larger mental problem than a kink. Almost assuredly the major fallout will be social; almost as a rule, the military culture is very conservative and unaccepting of differences. I could, but won't, get into why that's rational and necessary.

The real take away is this: if you join, plan on not being able to indulge in ABDL activities for the duration. Keep in mind Active Duty is one of the few occupations that truly is 24/7: you are legally required to respond and report when ever summoned, even if you're in the middle of Leave (effectively paid time off).

I'm active duty USAF and I have been for about four years now. In Basic Military Training, (BMT), you will NOT be able indulge or talk about it to anybody. After BMT, you go to a technical school for your AFSC and you will receive frequent dorm room inspections. After you get out of technical school and arrive at your first duty location you will be put in the dormitory housing and be subject to dorm inspections for 1-3 years. In your dorm you'll have a locked closet that they CANNOT inspect without a search warrant, and you can hide anything you want in there. During my stay in the dorms at technical school and permanent station, I've only seen them inspected once in three years, when multiple airmen were running a drug ring from the dorms. They tore apart every dorm in the building; flipped beds, closets inspected, vents checked, everything. It resulted in over 10 people charged and made security forces pretty on edge for a while. It's always a small risk this could happen, but they aren't looking for anything but drugs or weapons. Additionally, most inspections will be from your direct supervisor, not your commander. That means you'll have a connection and be friends, and it shouldn't be more than a quick poke around to see if you keep clean. If you're worried about getting caught with a pack, you can buy a sample of 2 and just use them in one day or one weekend and dispose. As for anyone telling you that you will always be inspected is dead wrong. It requires a search warrant to enter your property even when subject to the UCMJ, so if you were maximum worried about it you could get a safe in the dorms, and they cannot inspect your house off base.

Military cargo pants are very roomy and there is plenty of room for the most bulky diapers on the market, even while saturated, and the noise will never come through. The only time they can possibly catch you wearing is if you get a random drug test, but they don't escort you to the facility so you can just pull it off in your car or in a restroom while going to the facility. Don't wear to medical appointments or PT and your good. Even if a coworker suspects it, it would be sexual harassment for them to ask you to take your pants off or touch you to confirm their hunch. At the very least it would be extremely innapropriate to ask what kind of garments your coworkers are wearing and you wouldn't have to answer if they did. Trust me, these pants are made to hold all sorts of deployment gear and weapons, ammo. If you don't get your pants tailored or even get a size up, you can wear anything you want.

Lastly, I don't think it's against any rules at all for you to be in possession of adult diapers. I've never seen it on any kind of prohibited items list, or in any kind of writing whatsoever. If you do get found, it will likely be channeled up to the commander and it will be his decision what to do from there. At that point, if he believes you to be a good and hard working airman he will probably just ignore it, but if you're a big mess up and you're under the leadership radar, then it will most likely be turned into a big ordeal. The worst case scenario is that you go to mental health and are evaluated based on being ABDL and I highly doubt they can use it as a grounds to negatively impact your career. I think being abdl is completely compatible with the Air Force, if you just don't let it affect your job and you're a good troop. The worst that will probably happen if you are caught is a really awkward conversation with your supervisor and some troops talking about you behind your back. Send me a message if you have any specific questions!

Traemo said:

Mind expanding on that "non-branch" thing?

The term is "Discharged." Unlike most employment contracts, in this case the employee has no ability to end the term of service.

As for being discovered, it's unlikely to result in a Medical Discharge for mental health, unless the circumstances around that event suggest a much larger mental problem than a kink. Almost assuredly the major fallout will be social; almost as a rule, the military culture is very conservative and unaccepting of differences. I could, but won't, get into why that's rational and necessary.

The real take away is this: if you join, plan on not being able to indulge in ABDL activities for the duration. Keep in mind Active Duty is one of the few occupations that truly is 24/7: you are legally required to respond and report when ever summoned, even if you're in the middle of Leave (effectively paid time off).

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A stunningly large segment of population something like 6 out of 10 people don't know or remember that the Coast Guard is a military service, almost everyone can tell you about the 4 branches , when in fact theres 5 !
So they are frequently referred to as the "non branch" or "rubber ducks with guns" is the worst i have heard .

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OriginalT said:

So ive been considering joining some branch of the US military for a while now, and i just wonder how i could possibly express any littleness and or have baby stuff like sippys and pacis. It would be incredibly hard to hide it if I lived in the military housing thats provided, if I really wanted to wear diapers I would definitely have to get my own space. The stress of Basics alone would be enough to make me want little time. Idk I just see myself becoming very frustrated after a while, and these definitely a zero chance of any little stuff if I were deployed

So i guess the ultimate question would be: am I willing to give up abdl/little time for a sound career? at least for a few years? its a tough decision

Is anyone here a veteran or currently serving? Id love to hear your opinion and thoughts!


((if anyone thinks this should go under another forum, ill move it!)

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It's a trap! Anyway there are two reasons they don't want bedwetters, aside from 'sanitation' issues (the Air Farts or other branches can actually give you a Court Martial for smelling bad in the presence of cleaning equipment like washers or showers or nearby springs.) But the two medical reasons they USED to cite (I got out in 1979) mental health or physical health issues. Things like diabetes, pancreatitis, colon or prostate issues, they can be difficult to address in the 'mission' environment.

They believe, seriously, that non-physical bedwetting to be a sign of mental illness. Which they don't look upon favorably. They use Pavlovian Conditioning to train you, just like the dog experiments. You're expected to learn (it's very rare in the natural state) instant and unquestioned obedience. The neuro-psychiatric differences in people with Autism (like me) or a list of disorders that would block or distort the Pavlovian Conditioning group-think and could cause you physical harm if you're, say, schizophrenic. Or Schizoid, which isn't even nearly the same thing. The training also postpones the PTSD that you're going to have eventually. Assimilation is a delicate process.

I was identified as high-functioning Autism when I was 6, 12 years before enlisting, BY THE USAF, as a dependent. I was believed to be mentally retarded at first, that's why they tested me. Like pretending to be potty trained only after age 4. Not reciting a b c d e etc in first grade because I was already reading on a 4th grade level and numbers 1 through 10 when I could count as long as I felt like doing. and the Hokey Pokey dance I felt really insulting because I really did already know left from right and thought the dance was kind of dorky.

So 12 years later, and my dad had his Second honorable discharge and his twin brother who had the same initials, birthdate and 1 number off on their social security records, well, when they were 12 they Lied About Their Age (have patience, I'll tie this together soon) and were about to be deployed to Korea when their commander took them aside, said "look, you boys will be good soldiers one day, but I know you're only 15 (they were big for their age) so we have to put a stop to this" AND they re-enlisted once they were 18. THEN, about the same time Dad was discharged from the Air Farts there was a fire in the St Louis Archives (George Bush Junior's files got burned too)
and then, months after enlisting they finally got through the mess made by The Wonder Twins and found the diagnosis. So I was invited to leave their presence. About that time I was really disenchanted with the Uniform Thought life and gladly complied.

But the Biggest Reason they don't like bedwetting is it is Non Standard and they don't like people being Non Standard. It messes up their mission. As I left through the front gate of Sheppard AFB TX had to stop repeatedly to retrieve my buttocks as I laughed them off A LOT.