Wanting to be diapered in a hospital

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So this is probably a dumb question but I'm only asking to those who've had experience like this.

So in December of 2017 I'm going to have surgery & be put to sleep to remove a cyst, but to those who are incontinent or not I have a question out of curiosity.

If you were incontinent or not (depending on your medical records) & you feel like you wanted to be diapered before being put to sleep, would you get in trouble for wanting to be diapered or no?

I apologize for the dumb question I just don't know if anyone that isn't incontinent would get in trouble for wanting to be diapered in a hospital, & I wasn't sure where to post this (sorry).
 
being diapered juring surgery is up to the surgeon you can request it but depending on the length of the surgery they will use a catheter. if you are also bowel incontinent the they will probably leave you diapered.

just remember to be honest about your incontinence and you will have no trouble being diapered while in hospital as they see this daily
 
I've been in the hospital many times. Diapers are no big deal. A big deal is when you mess the bed instead of just your diaper.
 
You won't get in trouble, but if you want to wear a diaper you'll basically have to lie and tell them you're incontinent. If you tell them that you just like wearing diapers, or that you get psychological comfort from wearing a diaper, they'll likely ask you to take it off.

Even if you tell them you're incontinent, they may have you take it off, or take it off for you once you're under anesthesia. I have woken up from surgery with a catheter in, and I have woken up with no diaper and my penis put in the top of one of those plastic urinal jugs. I've never woken up with a diaper on.

The easiest thing to do would be to wear a diaper to the hospital. Depending on the nature of the surgery and anesthesia, they may tell you to remove all your clothes (likely if it's going to be general anesthesia) or they may tell you to keep some of your clothes on. At that point you can ask about whether to keep your diaper on or take it off. My experience is that they usually wake you to keep a diaper on, and if they want or need it off for the surgery, they'll take it off once you're under the anesthesia.
 
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If it's outpatient surgery and the cyst is no where near the diapered area, as suggested above, wear a diaper to the procedure. The worst case is they will tell you to take it off. I have had a few procedures done where I was allowed to keep my undies on.

Now, if it's an extended stay and you claim to be ic, beware as hospitals like to send specialists in to see you. A urologist might come see you and question your habits and may recommend some tests.
 
Hospitals don't care about us wearing a diaper anywhere near as much as you think they do. Just wear a diaper going in. When they tell you to take all your clothes off for the prep, tell them you're diapered and would like to keep it on. No need to go into detail, and if anyone tries to pry, just tell them you're ok and have it handled. The hospital and doctors won't press, and you won't get in trouble.

Depending on the cyst location, they may take it off once you're asleep, and put in a catheter. Or they may just leave it on you. One thing is for sure though, if you go in diapered make sure to bring an extra one to change into after the surgery. Hospital diapers are the worst, you will not want one of those.
 
If you're not incontinent, and you tell them you are, they'll know you're lying because there'll be nothing about it in your medical record. And they'll want to investigate and do tests on you. When they do that, they'll know for sure that you're lying.

That said, if you're okay with them knowing, they'll probably ask you to remove the diaper before surgery for reasons of hygeine anyway. Surgery that lasts more than 4 hours or so (cyst removal won't take that long) they'll want to insert a foley catheter, so you can't be wearing a diaper anyway, for that.

If the surgery is on your upper body, does not involve a general anaesthetic, and they allow you to keep your underwear on, you might be able to wear a diaper and not tell them you're wearing.

When I went in for surgery 4 years ago, I told them I was incontinent (they knew anyway, form my medical records) and I did not have a diaper at all during my stay, I was on a catheter instead. Part of the reason for that is because they want to measure the fluid input/output ratio, and a catheter is the easiest way to do that.

One thing you definitely do not want is to use a diaper provided by the hospital. They are the cheapest of the cheap, horrible useless things.
 
It would be remarkable if they figured out that someone was lying about any medical condition because it's not listed in the medical record. I have liver disease that affects nearly every aspect of my medical care and usually hospitalized my at least once a year, and when I go in for other things I still have to tell them about it or they won't know to handle my treatment accordingly. Many problems don't reliably make it into the chart, and even those that do, the chart is often not reviewed in much detail.

That said, my chart goes thousands of pages, maybe ten of thousands. I remember switching doctors years ago, and the chart for just one specially was over a thousand pages. That was 25 years ago, before I'd been diagnosed with liver disease, bladder problems, or any of the other issues I fight with today.

Still, I seriously doubt that they'd decide you're lying about incontinence just because they hadn't seen it in your records. Perhaps if you're looking for narcotics for chronic pain issues, but not for incontinence.
 
downtide said:
If you're not incontinent, and you tell them you are, they'll know you're lying because there'll be nothing about it in your medical record. And they'll want to investigate and do tests on you. When they do that, they'll know for sure that you're lying.

That said, if you're okay with them knowing, they'll probably ask you to remove the diaper before surgery for reasons of hygeine anyway. Surgery that lasts more than 4 hours or so (cyst removal won't take that long) they'll want to insert a foley catheter, so you can't be wearing a diaper anyway, for that.

If the surgery is on your upper body, does not involve a general anaesthetic, and they allow you to keep your underwear on, you might be able to wear a diaper and not tell them you're wearing.

When I went in for surgery 4 years ago, I told them I was incontinent (they knew anyway, form my medical records) and I did not have a diaper at all during my stay, I was on a catheter instead. Part of the reason for that is because they want to measure the fluid input/output ratio, and a catheter is the easiest way to do that.

One thing you definitely do not want is to use a diaper provided by the hospital. They are the cheapest of the cheap, horrible useless things.

Uh, no. I've been to plenty of outpatient surgery centers, and new hospitals that don't have my full set of medical records. Even when not logged in, my incontinence a d diaper use has never once come up as an issue like you're saying. Quit feeding into unfounded fears of what if, just because you think that's how it might be.


Perfect example. I went in for a knee surgery as an outpatient at a new hospital I had never gone to before. Due to our HIPA laws, the hospital did not have my past medical records from other facilities (by law, hospitals and doctors cannot share your records without your consent).

The hospital did not know before my preop that I was incontinent. They asked if I had it under control, and I said yes. They confirmed I should wear my diaper into the operating room, and they would take care of me from there (I ended up being cathed and later rediaperd with one of those horrible hospital diapers). However, at no point was I interrogated or forced into unnecessary tests to "prove" my incontinence. And quite frankly, thinking they would do that is just ridiculous.
 
Slomo said:
Due to our HIPA laws, the hospital did not have my past medical records from other facilities (by law, hospitals and doctors cannot share your records without your consent).

Slomo, healthcare providers can indeed share your records without your consent, as long as they do so in furtherance of your treatment, to receive payment for services rendered, or for practice operational necessity. This is the 'TPO Standard,' and your consent isn't required as long as the practitioner can point to one of these three concerns as a reason for the disclosure. Had your past providers sent your records to the hospital, they could have done so legally, since the records were required to further your treatment there.

There's no violation of HIPAA involved, as long as the TPO Standard is observed.
 
sbmccue said:
Slomo, healthcare providers can indeed share your records without your consent, as long as they do so in furtherance of your treatment, to receive payment for services rendered, or for practice operational necessity. This is the 'TPO Standard,' and your consent isn't required as long as the practitioner can point to one of these three concerns as a reason for the disclosure. Had your past providers sent your records to the hospital, they could have done so legally, since the records were required to further your treatment there.

There's no violation of HIPAA involved, as long as the TPO Standard is observed.

Yeah, IF it is directly related to the matter at hand. With my last example, if I go into a surgery center for a knee reconstructuon, then yes the surgeon can request my medical info from my primary doctor, but only that info pertinent to my knee surgery. HIPAA does not allow for unrestricted access of all my medical records, including info regarding my incontinence.

The only exception to this, is if I were to have previously signed a HIPAA waiver with my PCM that would allow for them to share all my records with other medical facilities, such as the surgery center (and/or family members too). This is a very common form, and most PCM's do like to have patients sign it- but it is not mandatory. If you do not sign it, then no they cannot legally share your info without your additional consent.

Ergo, if you go into a new facility for a non-incontinence related surgery, then that hospital/center will NOT have your info regarding any validity to your wearing a diaper. Not unless you tell them or have signed that waiver. If they do have it otherwise, then you have a very good lawsuit to go after because that facility will have broken HIPAA laws.
 
Slomo said:
If they do have it otherwise, then you have a very good lawsuit to go after because that facility will have broken HIPAA laws.

Unfortunately, patient privacy law isn't individually actionable, meaning you cannot file suit against your healthcare provider for a breach of your records. Groups of patients can file class-action suits, which is happening more and more. In some States, you can complain to the Attorney General ... but that's the limit of your recourse.
 
sbmccue said:
Unfortunately, patient privacy law isn't individually actionable, meaning you cannot file suit against your healthcare provider for a breach of your records. Groups of patients can file class-action suits, which is happening more and more. In some States, you can complain to the Attorney General ... but that's the limit of your recourse.

That's almost right, but not exactly. You can sue under state laws, in a state court, using the hipaa guidelines.
http://healthcare.findlaw.com/patie...n-improper-disclosure-of-medical-records.html

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Edit, this is kind of semantics though. The point is, hipaa laws don't allow for doctors to willfully share your medical records unless it is directly relavent to your immediate care.

Hospital B isn't going to call up Doctors office A to get every little detail about your physical and mental health. Not only would that be a questionable practice, but they don't have the time comb through every persons medical history and charts looking to find where someone "might" be lying about one thing when you're there for something else all together.

They aren't going to dig up something that may or may not be questionable, just so they can force tests on you to prove it, and then somehow reprimand you for that lying. Legality aside, it just isn't going to happen for so many reasons.
 
The salient point here is that doctors and nurses are very busy. It's hard enough to get them to spend enough time to give an adequate diagnosis and adequate care. They're not going to comb through your chart to see if you really have a condition that's not really related to what you're being treated for. Even if they do look through your chart and see that a condition is missing, they'll make the obvious (and usually true) assumption that it's just not in their version of the chart. There is no "master chart" that follows you from provider to provider.

If you wear a diaper to a hospital, they may or may not ask you why. I once went to the ER with a severe headache (I actually went to urgent care, and they called an ambulance to take me to the ER), and they ended up doing a spinal tap. (The pain went to 11, for those who get the reference!) I know perfectly well that they saw my diaper, but it wasn't part of what they were concerned about and they never asked. I was a little surprised that they never checked to see if I needed a clean diaper (I was there for around eight hours), but they were busy and I didn't ask.
 
Remember doctors & Nurses are better lie detectors than the lie detectors themselves. Be honest or your stay in the hospital will not be enjoyable at all.
 
I had a colonoscopy awhile back. The hospital VA knows I'm incontinent, because I get my diapers from them. So I go in for the 'scopy, put on the gown, and tell the nurse I'm incontinent. She tried to move the diaper from around my butt, but it wouldn't budge. She wound up taking it off, after I was anesthetized. When I woke up, there was a really high-quality diaper waiting for me. I re-diapered, put my clothes on, and left. No questions, no comments.
 
Complete opposite of my experience last Thursday for my cystoscopy under GA.

I put on the pre-admission forms that I was IC and I wore pads for that. Last Thursday, I wore a nappy to the hospital, as well as taking a few spares. On admission, I was told to strip completely, so I told the nurse what to do with my nappy - take it off too. When she came to collect my clothes and shoes, she binned the nappy, took the spares, and put them in with my clothes, and tied up the lot into a clear bag.

So for the next hour, I was laying in a bed with no protection at all. When I woke up from the GA, I discovered they'd placed a tiny little pad over my girly bits - no other thought towards any better protection. When they got me out of the bed and onto a wheelchair to wheel me to the discharge lounge, I was handed a flimsy pair of paper knickers to hold the pad in place. Didn't get my clothes back until just on discharge, but had no place to change into one of the spare nappies I bought, so changed as soon as I got home.

THat was the only issue I'd had a problem with before and during my stay at that hospital. They didn't seem to want to know or acknowledge my IC/leaking/flooding.
 
ozziebee said:
Complete opposite of my experience last Thursday for my cystoscopy under GA.

I put on the pre-admission forms that I was IC and I wore pads for that. Last Thursday, I wore a nappy to the hospital, as well as taking a few spares. On admission, I was told to strip completely, so I told the nurse what to do with my nappy - take it off too. When she came to collect my clothes and shoes, she binned the nappy, took the spares, and put them in with my clothes, and tied up the lot into a clear bag.

So for the next hour, I was laying in a bed with no protection at all. When I woke up from the GA, I discovered they'd placed a tiny little pad over my girly bits - no other thought towards any better protection. When they got me out of the bed and onto a wheelchair to wheel me to the discharge lounge, I was handed a flimsy pair of paper knickers to hold the pad in place. Didn't get my clothes back until just on discharge, but had no place to change into one of the spare nappies I bought, so changed as soon as I got home.

THat was the only issue I'd had a problem with before and during my stay at that hospital. They didn't seem to want to know or acknowledge my IC/leaking/flooding.

See, this is exactly why you need to correct anyone (including yourself) on properly calling them diapers.

Call it a pad, and have the doctor/hospital note them as pads. And guess what you're going to get?

I'm a bit surprised you didn't correct them and request an actual diaper though. Hospital diapers suck for sure, but they're still better than actual pads.
 
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