After 20 years of basically 24/7, I'm still not incontinent by any stretch - YMMV... The wetness /saturation of my diaper is ingrained in the back of my mind, I (often) know when I'll leak and hold off until just before removing it to get changed before releasing, or stand up and not sit down for awhile after releasing is a change isn't practical. Definitely not incontinence, but certainly diaper trained! My effective bladder size is shrunk due to not holding it for extended periods, but that can be retrained too - not like that'll ever happen, I like my diapers too much!