Another 'IRS' scam call

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Get in the car for the morning commute. Five minutes in, the hands-free rings and it's a robocall from the IRS saying they are filing a lawsuit and I could be arrested. Yeah, I've heard this scam before, you want me to call right away before you send out a warrant for my arrest...

I've got a 45 minute commute ahead of me, hands-free phone, free long distance, and I'm bored. Let's play!!!

First time I get through I try playing along with their script. You want my name and address? Sure, here's a fake name and address. Oh, you found my case with that, perfect! Sure, you audited my taxes from 2010 to 2015 confidentially and found I owe you more...damn. The call came from central California which was obviously going to a call center in India (seriously, with that thick of an Indian accent you expect me to believe your name is Shaun Harris?) and the VOIP cut out. Damn. Let's try again...

Now who am I talking to? Victor Morris (again with the thick Indian accent). Great, Victor, I'm glad I got you! This is Chad with Bank of America calling about questionable charges on your Visa card. Did you place an order on a Danish website for several thousand dollars of liquor? No? So it's a fraudulent charge? No? Is it valid then, Victor? We here at B of A are trying to protect your credit...

Again, they finally hang up. Next! "Hello, this is the IRS." Congratulations, you've won a free Caribbean cruise from Carnival Cruise lines! Click.

They start figuring out my number and hanging up right as I call in. Last one before work, I get through and ask, "Am I annoying you? Or are we having fun yet? Please say we're having fun..." Click.

Lunchtime, have they forgotten about me? Call in..."Hello, this is the IRS."

Dude, man. Where's Dave? He gave me this number, said you'd answer with the IRS code phrase. The hookers OD'ed at the party two days ago, we need to get rid of the bodies! I got 47 keys of coke sitting here I gotta move, if the cops find it because the bodies stink the place up we're dead meat, man. Where's Dave, man? We gotta dump the bodies and move this coke!

"What are you saying?"

The hookers, man, they're dead! You need to help me get rid of the bodies!

"What are hookers?"

You know, man, the prostitutes, the gals you pay money to screw you.

"Don't you have a girlfriend?"

Yeah, man, I got a girl, these were for the guys at the party. But we gotta move the cocaine, too, dude. You know how much time we're looking at if the cops find us? I can't go back to the joint, man.

"Oh, don't do cocaine, it is bad for you."

I ain't doing it man, I'm just moving the shit! You gotta help me, we gotta get rid of the dead hookers! They're dead, man!!

That one I kept on the phone for almost ten minutes...
 
I got a phone call recently from a "we are phoning about the car accident you have had" and I just reply with something simple and straight forward such as "I haven't been in one". They say sorry and hang up, as why waste their time?

If you want to joke with them, you can ask "Which car accident, I was in three" and start making up what they invovled, does the car pee-ing on the back seat count as an accident? Or me spilling my coffee?
 
I get the Bermuda cruise calls all the time. I'd like to talk to the nice lady but it sounds like a recording. At least, she never stops. I want to ask them if they have kidney dialysis machines on board.
 
Marka said:
You, rotten, wonderful, a$$hole, you! I love you! That's good stuff! lmfao! :) -Marka

Maria, that is THE best compliment I have been given, and coming from you, it's a big one. Thank you.
 
IRS never calls, they always communicate via us mail.

Anyone who falls for an IRS scam call deserves it.
 
MassIncon said:
Anyone who falls for an IRS scam call deserves it.

I would be careful about victim blaming. Not everyone is as bright or one step ahead. They make enough calls that they will hit some one who is vulnerable to believe it. I know my mum almost fell for the IT windows virus one. She could not pay up as she couldn't afford it. Did she deserve it? Hell no, it's easy to confuse people about things they don't know.
 
isnotavailable88 said:
I would be careful about victim blaming. Not everyone is as bright or one step ahead. They make enough calls that they will hit some one who is vulnerable to believe it. I know my mum almost fell for the IT windows virus one. She could not pay up as she couldn't afford it. Did she deserve it? Hell no, it's easy to confuse people about things they don't know.

Yeah I don't know about that. IF a person is stupid enough to fall for a scam then they certainly are not the strongest link in our society. If they are the weakest link then it's fair game to keep them down and hopefully out of the gene pool. This is a literal definition of Social Darwinism.
 
I'm not 100% sure falling for a scam is a good representation of a person's intelligence or stupidity... as isnot stated, it can be easy to be confused by the unfamiliar. While I would hope that most people would be more informed, it seems that the elderly are a particularly susceptible target, as they have a tendency to not be as ''up to date''.

That being said, however... Social Darwinism is a complex subject. I think it can be taken to a level that is morally wrong - as in ''No medical care for the sick, let them die off, survival of the fittest!'' But I also have to wonder if there can be some merit in there as well. I'm somewhat fascinated by LaVeyan Satanism, an atheistic religion with Social Darwinism as its core. To the Satanist, the number-one sin is stupidity.

I think it is fair to say... that there are certain populations that are more harmful to society than helpful. I read a story not long ago about a man who went to Florida's Busch Gardens and grabbed a flamingo, slamming it to the ground. The bird was so badly injured it was euthanized. This man had an EXTENSIVE criminal history and if I recall correctly, wouldn't take his psychiatric medication.

There comes a point where the good of society outweighs a person's individual rights - and where there is no more room for compassion. A person who has repeatedly shown through their criminal acts that they are not fit for society either needs to be locked up permanently or put to death.

This is an extreme example... and truthfully may not be totally within the realm of Social Darwinism itself. But it, along with LaVeyan Satanism, are very thought-provoking.
 
Marka said:
I'm a little surprised about this from you...

The broad sweeping generalizations particularly with the ambiguous definitions (no contextual definitions at all) of "stupid", "strongest", "weakest"...
...and then the use of the term "link"... as though your or anyone's survival, is dependent on others entirely and, your apparent presumption, that your genetics are somehow superior or at least, that theirs are inferior...

When in-fact... the technology alone, may be the only difference to their disadvantage and your advantage - as you require a surgery (a technological advance) and, they require protection (from the advanced technology)...

And, this is a literal definition of

Seriously man? C'mon... do I have to give you examples of how someone you care about (and, may even be genetically related to you and/or, is not even in the gene-pool anyway)... might get 'taken' ... and is "fair game to keep them down"?

Dude, that's just fucked-up... seriously!
I sincerely hope that you are trolling or, yanking chains here... that would relieve my senses, at least...

-Marka

I never said anything about genetics, nor did I ever say I think I'm superior. In fact, I actually I do know my genetics are flawed. It's why I voluntary got a vasectomy some 15-20 years ago.

Kind of a moot point though, since again I never said anything about genetics. This is their lack of mental capacity (which albeit may be closely linked to genetics alone). And yes, in modern society most everyone does depend on a bunch of other people for their own survival. Removing the weakest links absolutely will help ensure everyone elses survival.

Oh, and ps. I do not know of anyone in my extended family that has ever been taken advantage of from a scam. Not for a lack of scammers trying though. Can you say the same.
 
Slomo said:
Yeah I don't know about that. IF a person is stupid enough to fall for a scam then they certainly are not the strongest link in our society. If they are the weakest link then it's fair game to keep them down and hopefully out of the gene pool. This is a literal definition of Social Darwinism.

To clarify, what I meant by this comment is if a person doesn't have enough intelligence to not be scammed, then they are highly likely not intelligent enough (ie, stupid) to actually contribute to the advancement of our society. They are in essence the weakest parts (links) of our society. Removing the weakest parts makes the greater whole stronger. This cannot be argued even if the means for achieving it are harsh.

If persons own actions keep themselves financially repressed then that also helps to keep themselves from having more children. (Or god at least I hope it does). While not aimed directly at genetics (which again it could be), this would have the net result of those people removing themselves from greater society (ie, what I called the gene pool). And that of course, drives our greater socialism to evolve for the better.
 
Slomo said:
To clarify, what I meant by this comment is if a person doesn't have enough intelligence to not be scammed, then they are highly likely not intelligent enough (ie, stupid) to actually contribute to the advancement of our society. They are in essence the weakest parts (links) of our society. Removing the weakest parts makes the greater whole stronger. This cannot be argued even if the means for achieving it are harsh.

If persons own actions keep themselves financially repressed then that also helps to keep themselves from having more children. (Or god at least I hope it does). While not aimed directly at genetics (which again it could be), this would have the net result of those people removing themselves from greater society (ie, what I called the gene pool). And that of course, drives our greater socialism to evolve for the better.

I do not think that being scammed is an indication of intelligence. I sure some of the people scammed by Bernie Madoff were pretty bright. I think that the biggest scam is state run lotteries, or as I refer to it as a tax on stupid. Removing the weakest parts of society does not advance society. Hitler tried that, and I don't see that as an advanced society.
 
ORBaby said:
I do not think that being scammed is an indication of intelligence. I sure some of the people scammed by Bernie Madoff were pretty bright. I think that the biggest scam is state run lotteries, or as I refer to it as a tax on stupid. Removing the weakest parts of society does not advance society. Hitler tried that, and I don't see that as an advanced society.

To further clarify, I am not suggesting we embrace scammers to forcibly remove people from society- visavi Hitler style. It's the idiots themselves that are doing it to themselves. That is what I'm all for.

Madolf wasn't running a scam either. He was conducting outright fraud while misapropriating retirement funds. Big difference. And yeah, I never play the lotto, or gamble either. I agree both are like idiot taxes.
 
Marka said:
Well... I was hoping that you might see the (what I see as the) error in your thought module - rather, than simply rebuilding a more complex structure, based off the very same components of the original.

It's certainly now, more friendlier to the emotional senses - even if, for no other reason that it is less clearly, as an abject subjectification yet, I do still believe that it is inherently, in error... Thank you for your continued efforts though.



Except, that I am arguing it - disproving your fallacy or insistence, to the contrary. And, with any grace of reason and chance too, perhaps - I might yet enlighten you or, give you opportunity to further rearrange your proclamation.

What I believe that is your primary error is... that you may be confusing wisdom with that of intellect - unless, I've vastly misinterpreted the definitions, intellect is the measure of mental functional capacity whereas, wisdom is the application of intellect in actions, tempered by reasoning through experience and consideration to context.

And, short of whatever switches that may turn a gene expression on or off or perhaps, leave it in a rather ambiguous state - the principle of hereditary intellect or, acquisition of wisdom for that matter is, no indication of either survivability or odds of reproduction.

Again, intellect versus wisdom... more often than not, it is at least anecdotally observed that, the financially repressed, tend to breed, the most... and, it is most likely that because those people are ostracized from society... they're barred from gaining greater wisdom and, being more isolated... they're much less likely to have a greater appreciation for their contributions - to this "gene-pool"...

So, while you may be advantageous to them in some measure of intellect - though you apparently are lacking a greater wisdom yourself... genetic survivability is likely as great or more likely greater for them, than either of us combined.

I don't know whether this is a straw-man, tin-man or, a paper-lion yet, I think that you are simply misguided...

You may not be leaving a genetic-legacy, per-si yet, wouldn't you prefer to leave a proper legacy of your learning?

You seem to be making wild and uninformed assumptions to accepting others misfortune - perhaps, you have some sort of malformed survivor's guilt...

I, find it much more amenable to have compassion over pity and, to do what I can to attempt to thwart scammers and educate and protect others against such things...

-Marka

Smart means quick-whitted intillegence. Another word to describe it would be wisdom. If a person has intillect or knowlede alone, yet no intent to actually apply it, then yeah I stand by what I said.

And yeah, I would like to leave some sort of legacy of my learnings. Why eles do you think I'm on here trying to educate others about abdl acceptance in general.
 
I got a 23 calls in one day before I picked up to find out what there selling that i am not buying 202-118-5246 claimed in very thick middle eastern accent that I won a federal grant that I never applied for and surely does not exist because grants are awarded not won, but I yanked there chain hard enough they hung up on me ! Now to just to get some money out of my winnings ?

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