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    Default Real bed-wetter or not

    We all know that bed-wetting can occur for a number of reasons. It can happen because of a small bladder, deep sleep that doesn’t wake a person up, too much alcohol, reaction to medication, anxiety, sleep apnea, a lack of the hormone that reduces the production of urine while asleep or psychological reasons. The list goes on. It could be combination of things.

    We have heard of some people who say they wet the bed on purpose. Maybe because they like it, or they’re trying to get their parents or partners to either buy them diapers or allow them to use diapers.

    My question is this, are those who wet the bed on purpose real bed-wetters? Not just because the bed is getting wet but because it is bed-wetting for a psychological reason? If someone wets on purpose and claim to be a bed-wetter, are they? Or are they just fooling themselves or worse lying.

    Just a random question I came up with and thought some of the answers would be interesting.

    I’m inclined to say yes, it is for the most part actual bed-wetting for psychological reasons. I could be persuaded otherwise.

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    Bedwetting is well defined as involuntary wetting while sleeping.

    So no, anyone who does it on purpose is not a bedwetter. Thinking otherwise is just lying to yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slomo View Post
    Bedwetting is well defined as involuntary wetting while sleeping.

    So no, anyone who does it on purpose is not a bedwetter. Thinking otherwise is just lying to yourself.
    Yes, this ^.

    The medical term for bedwetting is nocturnal enuresis and it's defined as the involuntary release of urine during sleep.

    Purposely pissing your pants doesn't make you incontinent and neither does purposely doing it in bed.

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    If people do what they do of their own free will, it's not bedwetting. It's a separate psychological issue that causes them to want to voluntarily pee themselves, but they're not bedwetters.

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    mine is real because of pinched nerves in my back and a formerly enlarged prostate

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    Actually, the DSM states very clearly this:

    Clinical definition of enuresis is urinary incontinence beyond age of 4 years for daytime and beyond 6 years for nighttime, or loss of continence after three months of dryness.[4] Current DSM-IV-TR criteria:

    Repeated voiding of urine into bed or clothes (whether involuntary or intentional)

    So, based on that, yes intentional bed wetting is considered enuresis.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enuresis

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusP View Post
    Actually, the DSM states very clearly this:

    Clinical definition of enuresis is urinary incontinence beyond age of 4 years for daytime and beyond 6 years for nighttime, or loss of continence after three months of dryness.[4] Current DSM-IV-TR criteria:

    Repeated voiding of urine into bed or clothes (whether involuntary or intentional)

    So, based on that, yes intentional bed wetting is considered enuresis.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enuresis

    Uh, check again. The clinical definition includes "involuntary", as does your wiki link definition. The definition even goes further to include while you're asleep. And since you can't consciously control your bladder while asleep, you obviously can't do it on purpose. (though obviously it is possible to train ones self to pee at night or not)
    http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...rticlekey=3264
    http://medical-dictionary.thefreedic...y.com/enuresis
    https://familydoctor.org/enuresis-bed-wetting/
    http://www.aafp.org/afp/2014/1015/p560.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slomo View Post
    Uh, check again. The clinical definition includes "involuntary", as does your wiki link definition.
    Yes, it says "whether involuntary or intentional":
    It says: Repeated voiding of urine into bed or clothes (whether involuntary or intentional)
    Not: Repeated involuntary voiding of urine into bed or clothes

    This is quite confusing though. Myself I wouldn't call someone who wets on purpose a bedwetter, although the name of this term is missleading.

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    Yeah, intentionally pissing yourself while you are in bed is not considered "bedwetting" in my book anyway...

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    I don't need to check again, I pasted the relevant section, and it clearly includes intentional wetting. I imagine this is to include people who are somehow aware they are wetting, but for various psychological or disability reasons are unable to make it to a toilet. I recall reading a study on bedwetting children, and they specifically included kids who wet to spite the parents as having enuresis. The only difference was the mode of treatment for the defiant wetters.

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