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    Yesterday the largest university & hospital network in the state has an online and print newsletter on new medical items and procedures as well as consumer directed articles on topics of better living , yesterday the new issue was dedicated to:

    Is it time to finally start wearing adult diapers ??

    I could only chuckle and think got that onesie and burned it along time ago ,my doctor looked at what I was reading and snarked " items in the article may be closer than they appear"(referencing the warning on car mirrors ).

    It's such a controversial topic because Urologist feel like failures when drugs and surgery don't "cure" IC , so i asked does this mean they are going to try and train this out of new doctors and my doctor said "he'll yes" he has always had interns over the years , and frequently was the only voice of "reason" with new trainees ,so he's happy that this will be a normal part of there training breaking down the stigma on prescribing diapers , he has done it with his interns for years introducing scores of diaper wearing patients that are happy and living fulfilling lives who don't feel like there doctor or modern medicine failed them.
    So with this becoming a normal formal part of training more future doctors will not be afraid of doing it ,instead of trying risky expensive procedures that usually fail and make the patient miserable longer, admitting to youself and the patient that in many cases modern medicine has nothing to offer better or more effective than a diaper is not failing the patient in anyway .

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    I wish doctors would get on bored with diapers. I get that a cure should be the first goal, but they need to do a better job understanding that MANY people can't be cured and don't get satisfactory results with meds and/or surgery. Diapers are a very effective management tool, especially with the high quality of diapers available these days. My urologist is all about "getting me out of diapers" but I've already told him that ship has sailed and that I have no interest in enduring any more of his "treatments" unless there's some breakthrough with a 100% success rate with no side effects. Till then I'll just wear a diaper, no be ashamed by it, and live a productive life.

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    Old style thinking is " Adult dignity at all and any cost " No matter the side effects of drug therapy, No matter the cost of many surgical procedures, no matter the frequent UTI's from catheters. Dignity uber alles.

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    There is no money in prescribing diapers and unfortunately many doctors are more interested in that or their "hero/god" complex than the welfare of their patients.

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    here in Europe they tend to try also with meds, and i'm not going to take it...

    the comfort, security and safety is far more important than meds,
    the big pharmacys, are the most rich business takers of all times exept insurance..

    i feel very safe in diapers, and i live a good life with all the ups and downs, being ic and having to wear diapers is not preventing to enjoy life

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeronimusM View Post
    here in Europe they tend to try also with meds, and i'm not going to take it...
    My impression is that, in the UK, diapers are seen as much less "medically acceptable" than in the US.

    I think doctors here would only consider diapers acceptable for the severely disabled or elderly (>85yrs).

    Partly that's because the NHS offers free drugs and treatments, whereas in the US the cost of surgery can be prohibitive. But I definitely think you'd be considered extremely odd if you said, "I've had enough of being prodded and poked and taking pills with side-effects that don't work. I'll stick with diapers."

    I think, if someone got to that point here, the doctors would probably suggest surgery to bypass the normal exit points for waste, and give you drainage ports of some kind (like a stoma).

    Still, it's always your body, and your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetra View Post
    Yesterday the largest university & hospital network in the state has an online and print newsletter on new medical items and procedures as well as consumer directed articles on topics of better living , yesterday the new issue was dedicated to:

    Is it time to finally start wearing adult diapers ??
    Do you have a link to the article? Would love to read it!!

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    I remember not too long ago there was a study, and I want to say it was with the NHS, where they talked about how bad the failure rate was for most incontinence treatments. It may be that they're starting to see what actually works: Diapers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeronimusM View Post
    here in Europe they tend to try also with meds, and i'm not going to take it...
    Trying with meds is the correct approach. The problem is doctors who can't accept people relying on diapers when meds fail them.

    Any non-ABDL incontinent person would prefer a medical cure whether it's pills or surgery if A) it worked and B) it had tolerable or no side effects.

    What happens though is doctors project their sense of diaper shame onto their patients and make us feel like crap if we've come to rely on diapers and have reached a level of acceptance with it. I just want to get on with my life. All the treatements failed me. I've accepted that I'll be in diapers forever, why can't my doctor?

    But the vast majority of people can be very successfully treated or even cured. Diapers really don't make much sense as a first line treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MassIncon View Post
    Trying with meds is the correct approach. The problem is doctors who can't accept people relying on diapers when meds fail them.

    Any non-ABDL incontinent person would prefer a medical cure whether it's pills or surgery if A) it worked and B) it had tolerable or no side effects.

    What happens though is doctors project their sense of diaper shame onto their patients and make us feel like crap if we've come to rely on diapers and have reached a level of acceptance with it. I just want to get on with my life. All the treatements failed me. I've accepted that I'll be in diapers forever, why can't my doctor?

    But the vast majority of people can be very successfully treated or even cured. Diapers really don't make much sense as a first line treatment.
    Diaper shame? Personally I havent seen that. Ive been in hospital a couple times in recent months and it seems diapers are the default option for neuro patients. The nurses prefer if patients wear them too rather than try to get up to go to the bathroom and especially at night.

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