NJ and OR illegal to pump fuel???

I grew up in New Jersey, but moved away in 1971 and I can't remember being filled by an attendant, but I guess that's what happened. I remember when I was a little kid, the attendant would fill your tank, wipe and clean the windshield and ask if you needed oil because cars started burning oil after the high mileage of 40,000 miles. Back in the 1950s, there was a Bardahl commercial where they sang, "Is you car old enough to smoke?" Bardahl was an oil additive to engines with significant wear. I just Googled Bardahl and apparently they still make it. Amazing!

Commercial vehicles are exempt from the law. Truckers have to fuel themselves. Also, I have been told to pump my own diesel into a pickup in Oregon.

In the world of strange laws this one is one of the stranger I have seen

Actually, I believe Oregon got rid of their prohibition in 2015. NJ is the last one left.

It's actually got nothing in NJ to do with "commercial vehicles." There's a specific exemption in the law for diesel. If your commercial truck runs on gasoline, you can't pump it yourself

Hey that generates jobs for Shure that law would put a lot to work.

willnotwill said:

Actually, I believe Oregon got rid of their prohibition in 2015. NJ is the last one left.

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Sort of; what they did was relax the law in rural areas between 1800 and 0600. Now, if the county has less than 40,000 people total, operators may leave coin-operated or self-service pumps running overnight for customers. The goal was to minimize stranding travelers in the back end of nowhere (which is an apt description of large parts of the state).

The law is sort of a holdover from back when you had to have a trained attendant man the pumps. As time went on, they kept the legislation simply for the jobs. It is strange not being able to pump my own gas. I almost always forget, get out of the car, and start walking towards the pump when I remember. When I was stationed in Utah, home was in Washington, I used to stop at the Arrowhead Travel Plaza on the Pendletion Reservation for gas because on that rez you pump your own gas.

Here in Australia it is incredibly rare to find a petrol station where you will find a pump attendant, last time I found one was about 5 or so years ago in Rutherglen. Just happen to be here overnight so going to see if they still do this.

I think it's a great idea for employment.

Llayden said:

The law is sort of a holdover from back when you had to have a trained attendant man the pumps. As time went on, they kept the legislation simply for the jobs. It is strange not being able to pump my own gas. I almost always forget, get out of the car, and start walking towards the pump when I remember. When I was stationed in Utah, home was in Washington, I used to stop at the Arrowhead Travel Plaza on the Pendletion Reservation for gas because on that rez you pump your own gas.

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Hey! I've been there! Hell, I rolled a loaded wheat truck maybe a mile away from there last summer lol
I go up there quite a bit actually because the casino movie theater is a lot nicer than the local one.

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Relevant math:



Sauces:
$0.05 is all over google.
-Volume of Gasoline Sales, Oregon
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=A103R50411&f=M …
-Number of vehicles, Oregon
https://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/pages/news/driver_stats.aspx …
-Employment/Gas Station differences due to pump law, Oregon
https://oregoneconomicanalysis.com/2012/02/13/self-service-gas-and-taxes/ …
-Vocational Rehabilitation cost/case, Massachusetts
http://www.communityinclusion.org/article.php?article_id=167 …
-Extra time per fillup
http://oregonecon.blogspot.com/

2,800,000gal/day(0.05USD)(365days/year) = 1,022,000,000USD/Year

1,022,000,000USD/5,287USD/job (Most expensive avg. voc. rehab. cost) = 193,304 People employed

193,304jobs/4Gov't Ineptitude = 48,326 People employed after bureaucratic mismanagement

[(.5min/fillup)(12fillups/vehicle/year)(3,540,000passenger vehicles)]/60min = 354,000 hours per year