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    hi I am trying to find a way to seek help with my diaper changing. I live alone so it is really hard to do it alone. especially when I have to do it while standing up. I live in a very small apartment complex and I have to share the bathroom and the kitchen with all the other tenants. so I don't use the bathroom unless I need to wash. but I cant find anyone or anybody or programs that will help me. I don't have any control over my bladder or rear end. I am on disability as well. so does anybody has any options or info, please let me know.

    thanks,
    BabaC89

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    You live by yourself, yet have a shared bathroom? Also if your independent enough to live alone why can't you change yourself? If you have a medical condition prohibiting this why hasn't a doctor verified this disability so you can receive medical assistance?

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    If you have a genuine medical need and your fisabiliyy is severe enough to make eligible for placement in a nursing home , most states have Medicaid waivers and centers for independent lining (CIL'S), getting in contact with them is the place to start, you will have several Medical and functional evaluations to determine how many hours of assistance you qualify for and will then if you are deemed in need, awarded a certain amount of hours to budget when and with what you need assistance, light house keeping , trips to doctors , grocery shopping, laundry, grooming and personal hygiene like bathing and diaper changing , to explore this contact your states Office of Long Term Living or your Medicaid case worker, for guidance, if you are not disabled to the point of meeting criteria for admission to SNF ( Skilled Nursing Facilty) you will probably be denied, if you are accepted based on your condition you will be awarded between one hour and about 40 hours per week ( the most I have ever seen was 63 hours a week, for a person who had no independent mobility what so ever) using those hours efficiently and effectively is pretty much up to you .

    There are two models of care Agency model and Consumer model, with agency model the carer works for an agency, and is trained by an agency as to what they can and can jot do, and is also required to account for the time with you , as in they cleaned and dusted , you voided or had a BMW and was changed at what times, your meal was prepared and you ate a x time , they took you grocery shopping at such and such a store for x amount of time.

    On consumer model you hire and train your own people to what you need done and they answer to you as there employer, if you have no experience leading people or supervising people, agency model will probably work better for you , because unfortunately alot of people who take these positions do so , because they envision sitting around and getting paid to play on there phones or talk to there friends , basic qualifications are CPR card , passing a background check a drug check and employment references, if the person can not pass a child or elder abuse check they can not be hired because previous abuse of a child or adult disqualifies them, a previous record of misdemeanor or felony chargers is at your discretion .I if you need more care hours than can be authorized they will admit you to a long term care facilities to have your needs met.

    It costs about $28,000 a year to maintain you living independently in your own home with aides ( or attendant care , as it's official known) , a nursing facility $68,000, if I have missed anything or you still have questions feel free to contact me on the board or through PM and I will answer any questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rennecfox View Post
    You live by yourself, yet have a shared bathroom? Also if your independent enough to live alone why can't you change yourself? If you have a medical condition prohibiting this why hasn't a doctor verified this disability so you can receive medical assistance?
    I'm going to guess the OP lives in some type of sleeping room/boarding house arrangement? I mean, I would find it pretty hard to believe that there are still genuine apartments in the United States that don't have their own bathrooms...

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    Im willing to bet the OP is just looking to act out his fantasy. If this is so he needs to be upfront.

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    Well for an adult babysitter for a fetish from what I have heard it's $250 or more per hour depending on what you want , but that is very far removed from the realm of medical need due to a disability and is strictly " pay for play" , but if that's what you want and have money to burn, have at it!

    The big difference is one is having fun with a fetish, the other would fall under fraud , that is punishable by up to ten years in prison and never again being eligible for service in the community any future medical need would require a nursing home, but very few doctors would risk there medical license and families well being saying you had a disability severe enough to qualify you if in fact you didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetra View Post
    Well for an adult babysitter for a fetish from what I have heard it's $250 or more per hour depending on what you want , but that is very far removed from the realm of medical need due to a disability and is strictly " pay for play" , but if that's what you want and have money to burn, have at it!

    The big difference is one is having fun with a fetish, the other would fall under fraud , that is punishable by up to ten years in prison and never again being eligible for service in the community any future medical need would require a nursing home, but very few doctors would risk there medical license and families well being saying you had a disability severe enough to qualify you if in fact you didn't.
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    That makes me wonder. How long, if ever, till we'll be able to go to a psychiatrist and get a diagnosis for being ab or dl. Since those aren't fetishes, and aren't any more curable than being gay, it could eventually be seen as diapers being mentally/medically necessary for our well being. At that point we'd be able to get them covered by insurance, possibly care too like the OP is wanting. If only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slomo View Post
    That makes me wonder. How long, if ever, till we'll be able to go to a psychiatrist and get a diagnosis for being ab or dl. Since those aren't fetishes, and aren't any more curable than being gay, it could eventually be seen as diapers being mentally/medically necessary for our well being. At that point we'd be able to get them covered by insurance, possibly care too like the OP is wanting. If only.
    Interesting idea! I always figured it was just a fetish but that did not cover the huge spectrum that this covered. It's weird. Almost like a second emotional/ sex life independent of the adult sexual side we also have.
    People who don't understand us may say we are mentally ill. Yeah, many of us are, so what? I've realized part of the whole dang REASON I have Borderline Personality Disorder and Avoidant Personality Disorder stemmed in part from my fear and personal disgust I felt for this innocent side of me. Hiding a major part of my identity is more to blame for my problems since I've been so terrified about how the normal vanilla world would judge me. I thought I was an abomination when I was a teenager and told no one. That causes mental problems!

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    Actually there are psychiatric conditions that could currently have a modifier making diapers medical necessary because of ABDL, finding a doctor who was brave enough to use them is an entirely different story , so far we have gotten a lot of things delisted as major mental disorders ( they are in the process of removing Transgender, that blew my mind considering you could be committed against your will for adultery and homosexuality for many many years, there is a famous case of a woman who was completely ruined mentally because she spent like forty years in an asylum for adultery, she couldn't function or support herself when she was released , she ended up going back into the asylum and living there until her death in 1975 I believe it was, so the "rocket docket" removal of Transgender is very suprising).

    Anyway there are ways to do it now ,but it would be precedent setting and probably touch off a firestorm of debate .

    But to tell the truth I don't think psychiatry is very honest , it is the only branch of medicine that is not evidence based. In fact the list of what is a major mental disorder is decided by psychiatrists who go to a "conference" in some swank place and in between site seeing, getting laid , drinking to much, and eating too much lobster, they sit down for a couple of hours and read a list of things that they want to be a mental disorders and vote by a show of hands who is favour of it, if 200 psychiatrist show up for it and a simple majority raise there hands it becomes one , another list then gets read of things they claimed was a mental disorder but have since found out its not ( as long as a simple majority agrees) that's why there diagnosis blow like the wind , and change so often , basicsly any "new thing " is considered to be a major mental disorder that requires treatment until life proves them wrong and they vote it as normal. Combine that with the fact that most psychotropic medications work by mostly unknown ways ( they have very little hard actual knowledge of there effects on the body and brain, it's mostly SWAG (Scientific Wild Ass Guess) and hypothesis based on the few facts they do have.

    So in my opinion a lot of diagnoses , are pure conjecture, yet people believe it , because they don't know better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommycombs View Post
    Interesting idea! I always figured it was just a fetish but that did not cover the huge spectrum that this covered. It's weird. Almost like a second emotional/ sex life independent of the adult sexual side we also have.
    People who don't understand us may say we are mentally ill. Yeah, many of us are, so what? I've realized part of the whole dang REASON I have Borderline Personality Disorder and Avoidant Personality Disorder stemmed in part from my fear and personal disgust I felt for this innocent side of me. Hiding a major part of my identity is more to blame for my problems since I've been so terrified about how the normal vanilla world would judge me. I thought I was an abomination when I was a teenager and told no one. That causes mental problems!
    Exactly, for a vast majority of us, our inexplicable compulsion for diapers is simply not -based- on sexuality at all (though it most often does include a componet of it). This alone means it isn't a fetish or kink we might like to engage in, but is more a part of who we are.

    Getting the medical community (let alone our own community) to understand this would mean a huge leap for us. Most psychiatrists seem to be slowly coming around to this understanding, but still have yet to realize how integral and important diapers really are for us.

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