I noticed a lot of responders to this thread like to message from the out side of the diaper, and for me that's the only thing that arouses me, a short background I think I had in another thread was when I was visiting my dad's house, my younder brother was about two but slept with my dad and step mom so I stayed in his room but I had to go to bed at the same dang time as them, about 8 pm and at 14 years or so that was annoying my mom felt the same way and bought me a Watchman a Sony B/W pocket tv from that era so stocked up on batteries I could watch tv in bed for about 4-6 hours, that presented a second problem, to keep my dad from knowing I as still awake and a bathroom break would break my cover if you will so I started putting on my brothers diapers while watching my little tv and that's when I had my first puberty moment while in the diaper and just rubbing from the outside allowed biology to take it's course and from then on that's the only way I can get that to work, I have tried more conventional means to paw off but the only thing that has ever worked was message from the out side of the diaper, no other method ever worked, I guess as a plus every thing is contained inside the diaper and my hands never make physical contact to my male parts, I guess that's one hygienic means of meeting my bodies needs, I had though I was kinda the odd one out for that but I seem to be to not be the only one that does that now