Actually Incontinent?

alwayz said:

For the last 2 nights I went to bed wearing a clean dry diaper and plastic pants. I woke up in the morning with a wet bed and a saturated diaper. I have no recollection of wetting, usually at night I know when I'm about to pee, but now no warning, pressure or anything. Am I becoming incontinent? I wear diapers or Depends 24/7.

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maybe...that's how mine started. I actually wet the bed a little as a kid but not nightly and not to a late age. by 2nd grade it settled in to a pattern of 1-2x a year. stayed like that forever until suddenly a little over a year ago it just started happening more and more often. Often I'd wake up mid-stream and be able to stop in and finish in the bathroom. Some nights I'd wake up an only my boxers would be a little wet. then one night I flooded the bed and woke up soaked. Then it happened again a week later. then again a few days later. It' kept a spotty pattern of once or twice a week for a few months and then became nearly nightly. Around the same time I started noticing real strong day time urges and this super intense "I GOTTA GO NOW!" feeling. I'd get that super urgency feeling maybe 20% of the times I had to pee. I also noticed that I had to pee 10+ times a day rather than 5 or 6. Shortly after I started having accidents when I got those intense urges. I went to a urologist and was diagnosed with OAB. Had a handful of the typical tests done, was given OAB meds. Tried 6 differnet meds and they all had brutal side effects or just didn't work so I don't take them anymore. I had by that point gotten used to wearing diapers to bed so started wearing during the day. Pullups during the day at first and still sometimes but often a full tape on diaper is the way to go.

I go every 45 minutes, sometimes less and sometimes more but I couldn't hold it for 2 hours like people with no conditions can, I just can't without immense discomfort

Angelic said:

I go every 45 minutes, sometimes less and sometimes more but I couldn't hold it for 2 hours like people with no conditions can, I just can't without immense discomfort

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I can't even hold for 2 minutes and tend to drip and drobble all the timeand my bladder just empties uncontrollably without warning at least twice a day and always during the night.

i remember the first time about 4 years ago I suddenly wet myself while driving my bus , at time I was not working in my own depot I felt so embarrassed , but I with work colleges ,who did not know me then the following day I heard then talking about a driver wet him self , before this happen I notice I had urges to go and many toilet visits and small leaks ,so while working away in London where I wet myself first time at work ,after work I went to boots the chemist and got my first pull ups to wear at work and went out in the city , I felt so embarrassed that I had to wear then and carry spare one and I had to go through security checks and that they could see that I had pull up nappy to wear I did not enjoy that time .When I return to my home I wear pads just for in case of leak ,then I notice back in late 2015 things where getting worst my pads was leaking and many night time visits to the loo , So I got brave went to the Doctors explain what have been happening so done a P S A blood test and then checked my prostrate it was enlarge so off to the hospital they did test on my prostrate I was glad not cancer ,but enlarge and OAB They give tablets to help it out . As its no fun wetting yourself in front of your family or work colleges as I wear a pad at work or if go out if I am not sure about toilet stops and I wear pull ups if out having a drinking night with my mates or family and wear nappy in bed so I get good sleep so I cant see any body enjoy this for fun .

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i remember the first time about 4 years ago I suddenly wet myself while driving my bus , at time I was not working in my own depot I felt so embarrassed , but I with work colleges ,who did not know me then the following day I heard then talking about a driver wet him self , before this happen I notice I had urges to go and many toilet visits and small leaks ,so while working away in London where I wet myself first time at work ,after work I went to boots the chemist and got my first pull ups to wear at work and went out in the city , I felt so embarrassed that I had to wear then and carry spare one and I had to go through security checks and that they could see that I had pull up nappy to wear I did not enjoy that time .When I return to my home I wear pads just for in case of leak ,then I notice back in late 2015 things where getting worst my pads was leaking and many night time visits to the loo , So I got brave went to the Doctors explain what have been happening so done a P S A blood test and then checked my prostrate it was enlarge so off to the hospital they did test on my prostrate I was glad not cancer ,but enlarge and OAB They give tablets to help it out . As its no fun wetting yourself in front of your family or work colleges as I wear a pad at work or if go out if I am not sure about toilet stops and I wear pull ups if out having a drinking night with my mates or family and wear nappy in bed so I get good sleep so I cant see any body enjoy this for fun .

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i remember the first time about 4 years ago I suddenly wet myself while driving my bus , at time I was not working in my own depot I felt so embarrassed , but I with work colleges ,who did not know me then the following day I heard then talking about a driver wet him self , before this happen I notice I had urges to go and many toilet visits and small leaks ,so while working away in London where I wet myself first time at work ,after work I went to boots the chemist and got my first pull ups to wear at work and went out in the city , I felt so embarrassed that I had to wear then and carry spare one and I had to go through security checks and that they could see that I had pull up nappy to wear I did not enjoy that time .When I return to my home I wear pads just for in case of leak ,then I notice back in late 2015 things where getting worst my pads was leaking and many night time visits to the loo , So I got brave went to the Doctors explain what have been happening so done a P S A blood test and then checked my prostrate it was enlarge so off to the hospital they did test on my prostrate I was glad not cancer ,but enlarge and OAB They give tablets to help it out . As its no fun wetting yourself in front of your family or work colleges as I wear a pad at work or if go out if I am not sure about toilet stops and I wear pull ups if out having a drinking night with my mates or family and wear nappy in bed so I get good sleep so I cant see any body enjoy this for fun .

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i remember the first time about 4 years ago I suddenly wet myself while driving my bus , at time I was not working in my own depot I felt so embarrassed , but I with work colleges ,who did not know me then the following day I heard then talking about a driver wet him self , before this happen I notice I had urges to go and many toilet visits and small leaks ,so while working away in London where I wet myself first time at work ,after work I went to boots the chemist and got my first pull ups to wear at work and went out in the city , I felt so embarrassed that I had to wear then and carry spare one and I had to go through security checks and that they could see that I had pull up nappy to wear I did not enjoy that time .When I return to my home I wear pads just for in case of leak ,then I notice back in late 2015 things where getting worst my pads was leaking and many night time visits to the loo , So I got brave went to the Doctors explain what have been happening so done a P S A blood test and then checked my prostrate it was enlarge so off to the hospital they did test on my prostrate I was glad not cancer ,but enlarge and OAB They give tablets to help it out . As its no fun wetting yourself in front of your family or work colleges as I wear a pad at work or if go out if I am not sure about toilet stops and I wear pull ups if out having a drinking night with my mates or family and wear nappy in bed so I get good sleep so I cant see any body enjoy this for fun .

I'm incontinent and have been for many years, but I also have a strong DL streak that comes and goes in intensity. When it's absent I hate being incontinent and resent the time, energy and times it takes up to just go about daily life, but when I feel very strongly DL, it's great. It turns all the chores of dealing with incontinence into a pleasure and I find it exciting and enjoyable.

mrogers said:

I'm incontinent and have been for many years, but I also have a strong DL streak that comes and goes in intensity. When it's absent I hate being incontinent and resent the time, energy and times it takes up to just go about daily life, but when I feel very strongly DL, it's great. It turns all the chores of dealing with incontinence into a pleasure and I find it exciting and enjoyable.

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Fortunately my DL streak is always there now so dealing with being incontinent isn't a problem for me.

As you've suggested, I expect a fair portion of the posts here in the incontinence subforum are fake/fantasy. And you are right in that most of the fakes are easy to spot. I was a diapered bedwetter into my early teens so after my surgery and a return to wearing protection, it wasn't a shock (mostly). While I do have a small ab/dl side to me from growing up with constant night diapers, I don't know how anyone in his or her right mind would want this. When I indulge my ab/dl side I'm fine with it. Afterwards, not so much. It's back to the reality of being in a diaper whether I want to be or not. I suspect there are in fact some who are ab/dl who have had the misfortune of becoming incontinent. If they were honest (and of right mind) they would admit that being incontinent is a complication and inconvenience they would rather live without.

jack3295 said:

As you've suggested, I expect a fair portion of the posts here in the incontinence subforum are fake/fantasy. And you are right in that most of the fakes are easy to spot. I was a diapered bedwetter into my early teens so after my surgery and a return to wearing protection, it wasn't a shock (mostly). While I do have a small ab/dl side to me from growing up with constant night diapers, I don't know how anyone in his or her right mind would want this. When I indulge my ab/dl side I'm fine with it. Afterwards, not so much. It's back to the reality of being in a diaper whether I want to be or not. I suspect there are in fact some who are ab/dl who have had the misfortune of becoming incontinent. If they were honest (and of right mind) they would admit that being incontinent is a complication and inconvenience they would rather live without.

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Actually, I disagree with what you have said here. I don't think you can just state that everyone would feel it's complicated and inconvenience just because you do. I do as well mind you, so I get why you would think that. However, you have to consider not everyone is the same and we all handle things very differently.

Just because someone doesn't mind being incontinent and doesn't find being so inconvenient doesn't mean they are faking.

I also think it's absurd to think it's easy to spot someone who is faking it. Unless the story is absolutely absurd, you couldn't possibly know. Even the OP said himself he wouldn't call someone out in case he is wrong. The reason why there is that hesitation there to call someone out is because ... it's impossible to actually know if they are faking it unless they tell you.

Personally, I give everyone the benefit of the doubt simply because it's the right thing to do. That is until something clearly doesn't make sense or add up.

A quick life story about my incontinence

I was in an accident over 20 years ago and have had incontinence issues since that accident . I have seen many doc's and have been told that I had a nerogenic bladder . During normal testing around 8 years ago I was told that I had 4 times the normal bladder pressure in my bladder and that if it keeps up I will end up having kidney failure . I asked what we could do about it and was given acouple of options . I opted for the surgery so they did an external sphinctorotomy testing after the surgery showed that I still had really high pressure in my bladder and set up a surgery for the internal sphinctorotomy which seemed to help but I felt something was wrong was told a few years later that it didn't look like they did an external sphinctorotomy at all so I kind of wish I could know what they did bacause it hurt like hell . But I thought something was fishy . I have since given up on docs . I have dealt with the dating scene and found the abdl community and have a good looking girl by my side who is somewhat ok with my abdl side she is maybe 25% accommodating for me which I wish was more but I except that as I know it's hard for her . She is my sun shine . I luvs her with all of my heart and soul .

Been diagnosed by GP with Detrusor Instability and Urgency due to spinal injury since 2009 was kicked in the lower back constantly during childhood by mother's 2nd marriage and then in 2009 had a wooden chair snap under me hence was the final straw for my back (Doctors and specialist think it was due to the childhood abuse but the wooden chair incident was the the final straw as never had issues present them self to me before the chair).

While thinking back I am seeing the back injury presented it self in my childhood as underwear was soaked with at least sweat due to all those years with the chaffing.

Didn't have any concerns regarding bladder till 2010 was then one of my case managers was quite concerned as knew about the back (compressed nerve l4l5 s1, back in 2009 and he ended up asking around at his other job as a nurse and ended up contacting my G.P about it without me knowing his concerns (he had written permission previously to talk to any of my supports from me probably did so to save me the embarrassment of bringing it up myself to my G.P).

So had Cystosocpy plus right retrograde pyelogram done in late 2010 nothing was found sent for urodynamics in early 2011 could not find anything so no urological updates as nothing wrong with bladder was found and nothing since then.

Never know what or when what type of issue I am going to have with my bladder (unpredictable)

- Sometimes leaky all day
- Sometimes hard to start voiding
- Sometimes isssues emptying completely

Stream (as I'm a guy is weak) so easier and cleaner to sit while peeing

Been wearing pull ups since 2010 since currently wearing Molicare Mobile as the best pull up type I can find myself in Australia as never done a proper continence Assessment due to unable to speak about it to any one (if I had to speak to old GP about it I would email her my concerns but even that got too difficult years ago. .

But find issues with pull ups in general:- padding clumping up, chaffing, non snug fit even while wearing Tena Fix Stretch pants.

I belong to a spinal cord injury community , on it we have an encrypted only portion where you have to be sponsored by a member in good standing and all authorized members have to vote on if you should be granted access. Because all disability groups have "fans and devotees" as we call them , those people who desperately want to be like us ,I have seen more than a few people who intentionally amputated a body part because they believed it wasn't there's and it shouldn't be there, at least with IC most people just wear a diaper and call it done ,so I really don't mind the "fakers", I do however worry about the ones that resort to maiming and physical self harm to accomplish the task , in another community I am acquainted with an individual who is intellectually disabled and in state care because he will spend all his money on diapers without regard to how he is going tk eat , and constantly coming up with hairbrained ideas about traveling international to a less advanced society for medical tourism to have his prostate removed or anal surgery resulting in IC , thank god he is prevented from this by being in a facility and is rarely heard from lately ( I don't know how care is across the pond , but it's not the life I want in thr US) those people generally scare me , that they devotion much time and effort to scheming methods to become IC when if he would slow it down , and get control of his life he could buy and wear all he wants without a problem , it's the wanting to hurt himself to accomplish this that has him locked up in what I can only imagine as something like a "state hospital" in the US , I used to work for the state Mental Hygiene Police and saw a little to much of what institutional life is .As I say the fakers and phony stories are just part of the landscape and are mostly good decent harmless people who want to fit in with this group, but for family or social reasons claim to be IC ( there has been multiple posts about " my family will not accept this unless it's medical" in reality they could just be honest and say they enjoy it , deal with it ! But I realize life is nor that simple for many people . So as I have said before we just need to support all individuals regardless of why they are hear , let this be there oasis ( yes some stories are so blatant bullshit I have called a few people out on it , because either there delusional and need to be medicated , or they should be taught that stories and fantasies are fine to a point, take it to far and it's just garbage taking up space) , so we should be flexible enough to accomodate everyone, who needs a safe place, ultimately that is the purpose to be a support site , so people need to spend less time being aggravated by people who fake it , and more time being a neutral listener , sooner or later they will feel comfortable enough to reveal what really brings them here and what they truly need support with , and there is a whole wealth of very intelligent people here who can share relevant experience with them , as many have said they did not know there were other ABDL out there prior to the Internet, they all thought they were "unique freaks" .

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I do support the idear of making a separate section for those who are actually incontinent. Many on this site are incontinent and not all of them wish to be mixed with DL's and AB's.

But I think people should also fully accept that there are people on this forum with diaper and incontinence fantasies. It's an AB/Dl and IC site after all. If you were just looking for IC support there are also separate forums for that. I think by the way that the amount of people who pretend to be incontinent on here are very few.

remember this; Nobody wishes to be an AB/DL in the first place. It's not a choice just like incontinence isn't.

swimbutterfly22 said:

I do support the idear of making a separate section for those who are actually incontinent. Many on this site are incontinent and not all of them wish to be mixed with DL's and AB's.

But I think people should also fully accept that there are people on this forum with diaper and incontinence fantasies. It's an AB/Dl and IC site after all. If you were just looking for IC support there are also separate forums for that. I think by the way that the amount of people who pretend to be incontinent on here are very few.

remember this; Nobody wishes to be an AB/DL in the first place. It's not a choice just like incontinence isn't.

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The thing I've found is that incontinence forums are just as full of the 'fakers' if not more so than here. At least here people understand that there are DL's, and that they will show up in the incontinence section from time to time, as long as it's done right, it's accepted.

I also havr spinal issues in the l4l5 s1 area as well as osteoarthritis throughout my spine

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I see a lot of people talking about those who fake IC. I can not imagine faking it. As a person who is truly IC bladder and bowel, I know what a true pain in the ass it can be. Not being properly cleaned can and has led to skin breakdowns which is highly painful. I could tell a thousand instances where I would rather not be IC

I've been incontinent for about 20 years now, but have always loved wearing diapers. It was actually hard at first being forced I to diapers, and there was a bunch of times I had wanted to be diaper free. However, after coming to terms with my need for diapers I found I really do love wearing diapers even with needing them.

There are different kinds of need. I was bullied a lot in school. My subconscious kind of retreated to when I was little and I became attracted to wearing diapers. I'm pretty much 24/7 now, but I maintain enough control to not wear if the situation isn't appropriate. My need though is no less than someone with no control. It's how I cope with life. I've tried to stop using on occasion, but the urge is always there, so I embrace it.


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As for me, I legitimately was diagnosed with urge incontinence due to diabetic neuropathy about three to four years ago, and I wear diapers and booster pads every day. This is what my doctor wrote to my insurance recently to request prior authorization for my diapers:

"To whom it may concern,

I am the primary care provider for Scott, and I am writing this letter of medical neccessity for his T4535 Liners due to his urinary incontinence. Mr. Olson has uncontrolled diabetes contributing to increased urinary incontinence and also has asperger's syndrome with some cognitive impairment. He needs 120 liners per month for 12 refills. Please contact me with any questions.

Electronically signed by: M.D. Dec 23 2016 9:48AM EST Author"




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Also, here is a direct quote from a PDF from Priority Health that I found on Google just now. This should also clarify this issue further:


"POLICY/CRITERIA:

A. Incontinence supplies are covered when the physician writes a prescription
for the supplies which includes the following:

1. Diagnosis of medical condition causing the incontinence.
2. Item to be dispensed and duration of need.
3. Quantity of item and anticipated frequency the item requires replacement.
4. Supplies must be obtained at an authorized Priority Health Medicaid
provider.

B. Diapers, incontinence pants, liners, and belted/unbelted undergarments
without sides are covered for individuals age three or older if both of the
following applies:

1.A medical condition resulting in incontinence and there is no response to a
bowel/bladder training program.

2. The medical condition being treated results in incontinence, and
beneficiary would not benefit from or has failed a bowel/bladder training
program."