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    Default Donald Trump (Today) - "Kill (Assasinate) Hillary Clinton"...

    Today, Donald Trump called for Hillary Clinton to be killed to keep her from the Presidency:
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37029170


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    In good news, I no longer need to debate anyone who plans to vote for The Donald. I'm just going to link people to the article about the time he called for his supporters to murder his opponent and judge them based on whether or not they change their plans.

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    Let us say if Ms. Clinton wins, and somebody kills her before she officially takes office, it would cause a Constitutional Crisis. The "Vice-President Elect" would automatically be sworn-in as the President, and he would have to nominate someone else to the position of Vice-President.

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    This was explored in the final season of The West Wing when John Spencer passed away with a few episodes left to film. They had his character Leo McGarry pass away of a heart attack on election night but Matt Santos still won the election. President-Elect Santos decided to nominate a Vice President and ask the Senate for a confirmation vote. Given the lack of a clear Constitutional protocol he made it a priority to develop bipartisan consensus for both the process and the person to avoid weakening his administration from the start and because he knew he'd be setting future precedent.

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    Faux controversy du jour.

    There's the quote:

    "Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the Second Amendment. By the way, and if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks.

    "But the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know."

    If you take that seriously, you're <pick your favorite politically incorrect slur against the mentally challenged>. The first sentence is accurate. Hillary, like most leftists, would like to disarm the people. The second sentence is tongue in cheek, but appropriate because a powerful and aware populace is what leftists in power fear most. Get over it.

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    Again false Dichotomy. No where on Clinton's platform does it say she wants to make gun ownership illegal and in no public statement has she ever advocated for such. Hard core republicans need to open there eyes and realize that not everyone who wants responsible firearm safety wants to take away all guns. It is simply appalling that anyone could defend Trump for saying this. This is completely unacceptable behavior for anyone aspiring to be leader of our nation.

    And meanwhile you have republicans who are totally okay with Trump degrading their first amendment rights...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acan View Post
    Again false Dichotomy. No where on Clinton's platform does it say she wants to make gun ownership illegal and in no public statement has she ever advocated for such. Hard core republicans need to open there eyes and realize that not everyone who wants responsible firearm safety wants to take away all guns. It is simply appalling that anyone could defend Trump for saying this. This is completely unacceptable behavior for anyone aspiring to be leader of our nation.

    And meanwhile you have republicans who are totally okay with Trump degrading their first amendment rights...
    No, of course not. She doesn't want single payer health care either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxx View Post
    No, of course not. She doesn't want single payer health care either.
    Its hilarious how Trump supporters defend his tongue and cheek statements as him joking but when their political opponents have very detailed responsible plans for say expanded background checks that could have saved lives in Orlando then all of sudden its "oh noes they want ma guns!!!"

    Again coming from a conservative non-republican gun owner...

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    This comes from the same guy who said he could shoot someone and people would still vote for him.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ot-lose-voters

    Any person seeking the highest office in the land should not be making these kinds of statements. The defense that any sensible person would know what he meant to say is bogus. He backtracked saying it was a callout to gun supporters to get out and vote, but nowhere in the statement did he actually say that. If he wanted the 'second amendment people' to get out and vote against Clinton, he should have said that, instead of opting for innuendo. If he can't articulate his position, he's not fit to be a leader.

    Secondly, he uses the same propaganda the gun lobbyists have been using that Clinton has an agenda to ban guns in the US. After Orlando and the number of homicides in the US on a daily basis, it is sad to see such fearmongering and distortion of the facts about any politician proposing any reasonable gun control laws.

    Thirdly,, the gun lobby frequently cites the Second Amendment and the right to bear arms in the event the people may need to defend themselves against a tyrannical government. Without specifically stating his intent, he leaves it open to interpretation and demonstrates why these words are so dangerous. First he spouts misinformed rhetoric about Clinton wanting to ban their guns as a means to rile up his core base, and then tells them 'maybe the Second Amendment People can do something about it, I dunno.' This is what happens every time Trump steps away from the teleprompter. He incites hatred and violence with his propaganda, and then claims any reasonable person would know what he meant.

    The problem is that it is not the reasonable people we need to worry about when Trump makes these statements, it's the people who are unstable or unhinged who hear his comments and innuendo. Trump has attracted a number of unreasonable people to his campaign through his racist, misogynist rhetoric and those are the ones I would fear the most when he's citing the Second Amendment for people to protect themselves., He's been endorsed by the past president of the KKK for his anti immigrant, anti Muslim statements and policies. His consistent, ongoing demeaning language of Clinton, referring to her as 'Crooked Hillary,' for example, and inciting fear of gun owners at risk of having their guns banned, and then spewing out that only the Second Amendment can stop her, is, in my view, another example of Trump's misguided, off-the-cuff statement that confirms he doesn't have the capacity to think before he speaks, and shows why he shouldn't be anywhere near the nuclear codes. More importantly is my fear that his call to arms will resonate with someone less stable and violence will occur as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starrunner View Post
    Any person seeking the highest office in the land should not be making these kinds of statements. The defense that any sensible person would know what he meant to say is bogus. He backtracked saying it was a callout to gun supporters to get out and vote, but nowhere in the statement did he actually say that. If he wanted the 'second amendment people' to get out and vote against Clinton, he should have said that, instead of opting for innuendo. If he can't articulate his position, he's not fit to be a leader.
    Says you. He says what we've all been thinking for decades. Like him or not, Donald Trump is where he is BECAUSE he isn't pussyfooting around the obvious with politically correct statements sounding like newspeak from the Ministry of Truth.

    Worse, the media jump all over every slightest nuance of his, yet only recently have they even timidly challenged Hillary's boldfaced lies. The bias and hypocrisy is breathtaking.

    I don't buy everything he's selling, and what he's said on a lot of things isn't as conservative as I'd like, but that's small potatos compared to an incompetent congenital liar who's been bought and paid for by nearly every special interest and foreign nation on the planet.

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