I'm very concerned about my marriage

Subtlerustle said:
Parenting goals aside, perfection is an illusion. Pretty much unattainable in people and in life. I worry that if you portray shame in your kink, she will see it as a flaw, and, therefore be an affront to her high standards.
I’m curious if she’s kink aware. Does she support LGBTQ or is there a religious barrier? Understanding and acceptance of others is one area to gauge if she may have it in her to reconsider your own collective situation.
That’s an interesting thought.
Because I show shame she I turn see’s this as a flaw.
Never even concerned as a possibility.
No not kink aware or overly religious.
thanks for the really good line of thought
 
@Electrically, I'm sorry you're having such a rough time. That sucks. I've read over your posts in this thread, and the other one about anger, and it just makes me sad.

(be warned...this is long)

I'm no therapist, and by no means an expert, but it seems to me like you might need to deescalate the situation a bit before the lines of communication will open up. You might consider trying something like the following:

1) Pack up your ABDL stuff, and keep it out of sight for a while. It's entirely possible that every time she sees it, it pisses her off, for whatever reason you don't know yet. Every time she walks past it to put something away, she may see it, and go "That little m)(*#&)$(@*". She may even think you have it out there for the express purpose of goading her. While I'm sure that's not truly your intention, she may not see it that way.

Don't make a big deal out of it. Don't say anything about doing it. Just some time when she's not around, put it all out of sight. Don't purge.

2) Stop wearing for a while when she's around. Same reasons as above. She may think every time you diaper up, you're screwing with her or trying to provoke her. If you wear when she's not there, dispose of your used diapers discretely, out of sight.

3) See if that lowers the temperature a bit. If so, then you try to have a rational conversation about it.

If it were me, I'd try to book some time away outside of your usual environment. Slip off to a weekend getaway at a cabin or something, just the two of you, if you can do it. Get her away from the pressures of dealing with home...laundry, kids, housework, etc. That stuff stresses my wife out, and it's hard to really get her to relax when all that pressure and need to "get things done" is waiting just on the other side of the bedroom door. Don't take a single ABDL thing with you. Just spend time with her and be in the moment. Tell her you're taking her on a surprise get away to spend some one-on-one time with her. Tell her to bring some books, some movies, and some wine. Discretely bring her favorite vibe or toy if that helps her get off, in case you get some romance time.

Once you're there, get settled in, and just have some time to watch a movie, eat some dinner, etc. I wouldn't even bring it up the first night. Just be with each other. The next day, after coffee and breakfast, tell her that at some point before you leave, you want to talk about things that have been going on, and that you want to hear her concerns. Tell her it doesn't have to be that moment, but that before you leave to go back home, you want to have some time undisturbed to listen to her and be able to really hear her, and that you're really worried about the "us" in your relationship. Tell her you love her, and that you want to make things better, and grow your relationship even further and deeper, and that you need to hear what's really going on with her to be able to help do that.

Based on what you've posted in this thread and the other one, it seems like there must be something deeper causing this strong negative reaction to this. Perhaps she has some strong misconceptions about what your interest in this means. Maybe she thinks it means you're into little kids, or that it indicates an Oedipus complex of some type or something. There are a LOT of misunderstandings about the ABDL community, as I'm sure you know. Perhaps she's fabricated a problem that doesn't exist through her own ignorance or misunderstanding. Maybe something bad happened to her when she was little, and it's causing that to rear its head. Who knows...maybe she had a issue with ABDL popping up in an earlier relationship that damaged her. Maybe she's just so overwhelmed with parenting right now, that the thought of having to take on another someone who is totally dependent on her is pushing her to point of insanity. I know my wife has felt that way at points.

I will say that shortly after my wife gave birth to our first child, she told me "I'll never put you in another diaper again. It's just way too weird now." While she's backed off that stance a bit in the intervening 15 years, I still think it's a bit outside of her comfort zone. She indulges me occasionally, but I KNOW it's not her favorite thing in the world. Perhaps your wife has a similar feeling. Mine doesn't understand why I'd want to wear a diaper, much less use one. It's just so foreign to her that she doesn't understand it.

I think you really need to try to get at the root causes of her extreme adverse reaction. I'm guessing there is one.

I would suggest that you do a whole lot of listening, and not a whole lot of talking, at least at first. Let her dump everything that is on her chest about it off and download it to you. Be prepared for it to go way beyond just the diapers. My guess is she's carrying some pent-up frustation about other things, and that it may be hard for you to hear. Fight the urge to inject or interrupt. Fight the urge to get defensive or angry or try to rebut what's she saying as she's saying it. There will be time for that after she's done downloading. Sit there and listen. Ask leading questions or make comments that cause her to talk more.

This next step is critical, in my opinion. Once she's done, you need to tell her that you understand her concerns and thank her for being honest and open with you. You need to get across to her that you WANT to know her concerns and opinions, and that you value them. You may not agree with them, you may think they aren't a big deal, you might find she's mistaken about a lot of things, and/or you may think she's lost her damn mind, but whatever you may think about them, they ARE important to her, and she needs to feel like she's at least being heard and that you're taking her concerns/fears/wants/needs/desires seriously.

Then, after she's done, you can slowly and gently correct any outright inaccuracies, and present your side. I would do it in a non-confrontation and non-accusative way. Try to avoid statements that will put her on the defensive. Rather than "I'm sick of you being a bitch all the time about this" go with "I feel like we've been disconnected lately, and we don't laugh and have fun like we used to. What can we do together to bring back the fun and the laughter?"

Instead of, "I'm sick of you being a uptight frigid bitch...a squirrel needs to get his nut, ya hear?", go with something like, "Things have been awfully tense lately, and it seems to be affecting our romantic time together. Is there something that I could do to help lower your stress level and make you feel more in the mood? What really gets you excited, and can we give it a try sometime soon? Maybe tonight? Is there something you've always wanted to do but never have that we could try?"

As someone indicated in another response to you, this may have affected her opinion of your masculinity or what she expects from a husband. That's pretty common in this lifestyle, unfortunately. You may have to tell her, and then show her, that you're still big enough of a man that at a moments notice, you can rip off your diaper, give yourself a quick wipedown, flip her over, and take her doggy style while pulling her hair, slapping her ass, and calling her a dirty little slut (if that's what she wants and is what turns her on) or whatever.

If she's like most non-ABDL/non-kinky wives out there, it is extremely possible that she's worried about/thinking one or more of the following, probably at the same time:
1) Do I still even have a husband?
2) Does this mean that he doesn't find me sexy anymore and has to have this instead?
3) What happens if our kids find out?
4) What happens if our friends find out?
5) What happens if his job finds out?
6) What happens if our church finds out?
7) F*(@!...someone else to have to take care of around here!
8) Ewww...he wants me to touch a pissy diaper! That's gross.
9) Double ewwww...he wants to poop his diaper...and I'm going to have to clean it up!
10) God...it's every night now. If this were just once or twice a week, I could deal, but now it's all the time! This is just too ___-ing much!
11) F*(@!, I've been dropping hints for months that I want him to dom me, and now I get this. What a disappointment! I need my leather daddy!
12) WTF? Why would anyone want to piss or $#!t themselves! Ewww...
13) Why am I not enough for him? Why does he need this? What is wrong with me?
14) He hasn't asked me a single time if there's something I'd like to try in the bedroom.
15) F*(@! Some days I just want my husband.
16) We're trying to save for ____ and he's spending all this money on this baby stuff.
17) His wants me to be his mommy and then have sex with me...ewww...ergo, he wants to F*(@! his mommy. That's gross and evil!
18) Is he a pedophile? Is he into kids?
19) With all these risks, why is he being so selfish, and putting our family at risk?
20) He's spending all this time looking at ABDL porn on the 'net and jerking off in his diapers, and isn't paying enough/any attention to me and my needs.


Any one of those would be bad enough. Get a bunch of them going at once, and her mental state could get bad in a hurry on this topic.

I think realistically, in the short term, you need to hope to get to the point where you can communicate honestly about it, and to the point where you can be your baby self when she's not around, without her twisting off about it. If you can get to that point, at least you're both getting something you want and need. You can possibly build from that, slowly, over time, if you find her resistance is deep seated for some reason. You may have to make do with being baby when you send her off to a spa weekend somewhere.

I get to diaper up for any significant length of time only a couple of times a year. Between having teens in the house, all of their activities, being two career people whose jobs often carry over into the evenings, and a wife that's not really into it but who is willing to let me indulge myself occasionally, and a sex life best described as "rare and endangered" especially now due to covid and quarantining, I've learned to cope and have realistic expectations. Would I love to have her greet me at the door every single day wearing a black pencil skirt, white satin blouse, stockings, heels, holding a diaper and one hand and a paddle and paci in the other, and have her keep me diapered 12/7/365? Sure. Would I love for her to by my dommy-mommy all the time? Sure. Are either of those a realistic expectation with where we are in life and in our relationship? No, not really. Maybe you wearing every night to bed is just too much for her.

I don't know how you approach your kinks. My mind tends to be compartmentalized. While I love wearing panties and diapers, and would love to be a full time sissy baby, I can set that part of me aside when I need to, which is most of the time. While I think about it a lot, it's only a part of who I am. It's not all of me. If it's the same with you and your ABDL desires, you might need to make sure she understands that. You need to make her understand that you are, and will always be, first and foremost, a good husband, a good father, a good provider, a good attendee at your kids activities, a good member of your religious congregation, etc. She needs to understand that you're not wanting to completely change your lifestyle and subject your family to public ridicule. She also needs to know that you want her, and need her, and don't want to be without her. She needs to understand that this is just one little piece of who you are, not the only or overriding piece.

Somehow, you've got to strike a balance between what you need and what she needs from your relationship, so that both parties are feeling fulfilled. That's extremely difficult to do if the lines of communication are down. Getting those reopened should be your very first priority. The kinky stuff may have to wait.
 
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shollyknox said:
@Electrically, I'm sorry you're having such a rough time. That sucks. I've read over your posts in this thread, and the other one about anger, and it just makes me sad.

(be warned...this is long)

I'm no therapist, and by no means an expert, but it seems to me like you might need to deescalate the situation a bit before the lines of communication will open up. You might consider trying something like the following:

1) Pack up your ABDL stuff, and keep it out of sight for a while. It's entirely possible that every time she sees it, it pisses her off, for whatever reason you don't know yet. Every time she walks past it to put something away, she may see it, and go "That little m)(*#&)$(@*". She may even think you have it out there for the express purpose of goading her. While I'm sure that's not truly your intention, she may not see it that way.

Don't make a big deal out of it. Don't say anything about doing it. Just some time when she's not around, put it all out of sight. Don't purge.

2) Stop wearing for a while when she's around. Same reasons as above. She may think every time you diaper up, you're screwing with her or trying to provoke her. If you wear when she's not there, dispose of your used diapers discretely, out of sight.

3) See if that lowers the temperature a bit. If so, then you try to have a rational conversation about it.

If it were me, I'd try to book some time away outside of your usual environment. Slip off to a weekend getaway at a cabin or something, just the two of you, if you can do it. Get her away from the pressures of dealing with home...laundry, kids, housework, etc. That stuff stresses my wife out, and it's hard to really get her to relax when all that pressure and need to "get things done" is waiting just on the other side of the bedroom door. Don't take a single ABDL thing with you. Just spend time with her and be in the moment. Tell her you're taking her on a surprise get away to spend some one-on-one time with her. Tell her to bring some books, some movies, and some wine. Discretely bring her favorite vibe or toy if that helps her get off, in case you get some romance time.

Once you're there, get settled in, and just have some time to watch a movie, eat some dinner, etc. I wouldn't even bring it up the first night. Just be with each other. The next day, after coffee and breakfast, tell her that at some point before you leave, you want to talk about things that have been going on, and that you want to hear her concerns. Tell her it doesn't have to be that moment, but that before you leave to go back home, you want to have some time undisturbed to listen to her and be able to really hear her, and that you're really worried about the "us" in your relationship. Tell her you love her, and that you want to make things better, and grow your relationship even further and deeper, and that you need to hear what's really going on with her to be able to help do that.

Based on what you've posted in this thread and the other one, it seems like there must be something deeper causing this strong negative reaction to this. Perhaps she has some strong misconceptions about what your interest in this means. Maybe she thinks it means you're into little kids, or that it indicates an Oedipus complex of some type or something. There are a LOT of misunderstandings about the ABDL community, as I'm sure you know. Perhaps she's fabricated a problem that doesn't exist through her own ignorance or misunderstanding. Maybe something bad happened to her when she was little, and it's causing that to rear its head. Who knows...maybe she had a issue with ABDL popping up in an earlier relationship that damaged her. Maybe she's just so overwhelmed with parenting right now, that the thought of having to take on another someone who is totally dependent on her is pushing her to point of insanity. I know my wife has felt that way at points.

I will say that shortly after my wife gave birth to our first child, she told me "I'll never put you in another diaper again. It's just way too weird now." While she's backed off that stance a bit in the intervening 15 years, I still think it's a bit outside of her comfort zone. She indulges me occasionally, but I KNOW it's not her favorite thing in the world. Perhaps your wife has a similar feeling. Mine doesn't understand why I'd want to wear a diaper, much less use one. It's just so foreign to her that she doesn't understand it.

I think you really need to try to get at the root causes of her extreme adverse reaction. I'm guessing there is one.

I would suggest that you do a whole lot of listening, and not a whole lot of talking, at least at first. Let her dump everything that is on her chest about it off and download it to you. Be prepared for it to go way beyond just the diapers. My guess is she's carrying some pent-up frustation about other things, and that it may be hard for you to hear. Fight the urge to inject or interrupt. Fight the urge to get defensive or angry or try to rebut what's she saying as she's saying it. There will be time for that after she's done downloading. Sit there and listen. Ask leading questions or make comments that cause her to talk more.

This next step is critical, in my opinion. Once she's done, you need to tell her that you understand her concerns and thank her for being honest and open with you. You need to get across to her that you WANT to know her concerns and opinions, and that you value them. You may not agree with them, you may think they aren't a big deal, you might find she's mistaken about a lot of things, and/or you may think she's lost her damn mind, but whatever you may think about them, they ARE important to her, and she needs to feel like she's at least being heard and that you're taking her concerns/fears/wants/needs/desires seriously.

Then, after she's done, you can slowly and gently correct any outright inaccuracies, and present your side. I would do it in a non-confrontation and non-accusative way. Try to avoid statements that will put her on the defensive. Rather than "I'm sick of you being a bitch all the time about this" go with "I feel like we've been disconnected lately, and we don't laugh and have fun like we used to. What can we do together to bring back the fun and the laughter?"

Instead of, "I'm sick of you being a uptight frigid bitch...a squirrel needs to get his nut, ya hear?", go with something like, "Things have been awfully tense lately, and it seems to be affecting our romantic time together. Is there something that I could do to help lower your stress level and make you feel more in the mood? What really gets you excited, and can we give it a try sometime soon? Maybe tonight? Is there something you've always wanted to do but never have that we could try?"

As someone indicated in another response to you, this may have affected her opinion of your masculinity or what she expects from a husband. That's pretty common in this lifestyle, unfortunately. You may have to tell her, and then show her, that you're still big enough of a man that at a moments notice, you can rip off your diaper, give yourself a quick wipedown, flip her over, and take her doggy style while pulling her hair, slapping her ass, and calling her a dirty little slut (if that's what she wants and is what turns her on) or whatever.

If she's like most non-ABDL/non-kinky wives out there, it is extremely possible that she's worried about/thinking one or more of the following, probably at the same time:
1) Do I still even have a husband?
2) Does this mean that he doesn't find me sexy anymore and has to have this instead?
3) What happens if our kids find out?
4) What happens if our friends find out?
5) What happens if his job finds out?
6) What happens if our church finds out?
7) F*(@!...someone else to have to take care of around here!
8) Ewww...he wants me to touch a pissy diaper! That's gross.
9) Double ewwww...he wants to poop his diaper...and I'm going to have to clean it up!
10) God...it's every night now. If this were just once or twice a week, I could deal, but now it's all the time! This is just too ___-ing much!
11) F*(@!, I've been dropping hints for months that I want him to dom me, and now I get this. What a disappointment! I need my leather daddy!
12) WTF? Why would anyone want to piss or $#!t themselves! Ewww...
13) Why am I not enough for him? Why does he need this? What is wrong with me?
14) He hasn't asked me a single time if there's something I'd like to try in the bedroom.
15) F*(@! Some days I just want my husband.
16) We're trying to save for ____ and he's spending all this money on this baby stuff.
17) His wants me to be his mommy and then have sex with me...ewww...ergo, he wants to F*(@! his mommy. That's gross and evil!
18) Is he a pedophile? Is he into kids?
19) With all these risks, why is he being so selfish, and putting our family at risk?
20) He's spending all this time looking at ABDL porn on the 'net and jerking off in his diapers, and isn't paying enough/any attention to me and my needs.


Any one of those would be bad enough. Get a bunch of them going at once, and her mental state could get bad in a hurry on this topic.

I think realistically, in the short term, you need to hope to get to the point where you can communicate honestly about it, and to the point where you can be your baby self when she's not around, without her twisting off about it. If you can get to that point, at least you're both getting something you want and need. You can possibly build from that, slowly, over time, if you find her resistance is deep seated for some reason. You may have to make do with being baby when you send her off to a spa weekend somewhere.

I get to diaper up for any significant length of time only a couple of times a year. Between having teens in the house, all of their activities, being two career people whose jobs often carry over into the evenings, and a wife that's not really into it but who is willing to let me indulge myself occasionally, and a sex life best described as "rare and endangered" especially now due to covid and quarantining, I've learned to cope and have realistic expectations. Would I love to have her greet me at the door every single day wearing a black pencil skirt, white satin blouse, stockings, heels, holding a diaper and one hand and a paddle and paci in the other, and have her keep me diapered 12/7/365? Sure. Would I love for her to by my dommy-mommy all the time? Sure. Are either of those a realistic expectation with where we are in life and in our relationship? No, not really. Maybe you wearing every night to bed is just too much for her.

I don't know how you approach your kinks. My mind tends to be compartmentalized. While I love wearing panties and diapers, and would love to be a full time sissy baby, I can set that part of me aside when I need to, which is most of the time. While I think about it a lot, it's only a part of who I am. It's not all of me. If it's the same with you and your ABDL desires, you might need to make sure she understands that. You need to make her understand that you are, and will always be, first and foremost, a good husband, a good father, a good provider, a good attendee at your kids activities, a good member of your religious congregation, etc. She needs to understand that you're not wanting to completely change your lifestyle and subject your family to public ridicule. She also needs to know that you want her, and need her, and don't want to be without her. She needs to understand that this is just one little piece of who you are, not the only or overriding piece.

Somehow, you've got to strike a balance between what you need and what she needs from your relationship, so that both parties are feeling fulfilled. That's extremely difficult to do if the lines of communication are down. Getting those reopened should be your very first priority. The kinky stuff may have to wait.
Hi Sholly
I extremely appreciate the time you spent with this.
I also agree I need to keep things out of site type thinking and give her more time to become less angry.
And honestly I have been trying really hard to let this happen.
however the sex thing has been very difficult for us to get through it being a sexual thing as well as a comforting thing for me. I have a hard time preforming. Usually it starts out ok but somewhere in the middle of things I start to feel self-conscious. I will start thinking am I kissing her boobs too much or if I start fantasizing I start thinking about how bad this makes her feel and then things go down hill.
And she gets really upset. And starts asking me what’s wrong and she gets really mad with the answer and then stays something like You don’t think I am sexy and I say yes but I get anxious and self-conscious when I start to fantasize about you being that for me. Then usually she’ll say something to make me feel worse.
this seems to happen about once a week.
it’s to the point now when I think about having sex I start to feel anxious.
I try to explain this to her she seems to get real angry.

So I don’t know how to feel Intimate with her.
and I don’t know what to do.
I don’t want to withhold sex I want to make her happy. I don’t want to bring up the elephant in the room but it is a part of me that I want to feel open about.
I try really hard to just spend time with her in a more relaxed space but All she talks about is work kids schedules or lately ridiculous Corona politics. Which is not helping. And clearly not sexy
Best and thanks again for your time
 
Happy to try to help.

I can relate somewhat. I have a hard time finishing in traditional sex. Too many years of doing it myself, I guess. While I enjoy penetration, it just doesn't hit quite the right spots to get over the hump most of the time. Couple that with a bit of a sizing incompatibility between us such that it's not the most comfortable thing for her and the anxiety I get from that, and it usually just isn't our gig. Years ago, it caused some of those reactions you're seeing...."I'm not good at sex", "You don't think I'm pretty enough", "Why do I suck at this", etc. We got through that over time, but it was a frustration point for her.

I'll say this, there are a LOT of ways other than traditional penetrative sex that you can pleasure her and leave her exhausted, gasping for breath, pinky-toe cramping, and pushing you away while saying "I can't cum any more. Enough! Enough!" I read once, long ago, in a Penthouse Letters as a teenager, that you should always make the lady orgasm first. I've found that to be extremely good advice over the intervening 30 years.

Perhaps you can get her to let you just focus on her for a change during a romantic session, instead of it being mutual. Tell her that it's all about her for a change, and that you enjoy just pleasing her. That might be a good way to shift the paradigm at bit. It's a good way to get into subspace too.

But even if she wants to also pleasure you too, get her off a few times with your hand, your mouth, a toy, all of the above first...whatever she likes. Show her that you find her attractive, and sexy, and irresistible by how hot it makes you pleasuring her. I honestly enjoy making my wife cum almost as much as I like cumming myself, and perhaps more. Give her 4, 5, 6, 10, 12 orgasms if that's what it takes, but just leave her so that she's completely satisfied and can't take any more.

Then, if/when she shifts to focusing on you, you won't be worried about trying to satisfy her because you know she doesn't want any more, since you've already fully satiated her. Get her to tell you a sexy story or talk dirty to you while she's pleasuring you (or while you're taking care of it yourself as she sits on your face and touches herself), and dig deep into what she's saying in your mind, so you're focused on that instead of your random thoughts or stray diaper fantasies.

Let this become the new way you do sex for a while.

Perhaps a hot fantasy you whisper into her ear as you're pleasuring her plants a seed that can eventually lead to getting her to try something you find hot in real life. I'd go easy on that at first though. Establish your new intimacy habits/routine and get them firmly entrenched before introducing something that you know has the potential to be divisive or too much for her. Slow and steady wins the race. This is a seduction.

Who knows...maybe she'll even include some diapering elements in her dirty talk to you after a while since she knows it makes you hot. Maybe talking about it/fantasizing about it will be more palatable to her than actually doing it/seeing it done. We're like that on some stuff.

Also, the stuff about kids' schedules, work, Covid, etc. is like you're living in my house. This is why we take time to get away just the two of us, usually to a place that is disconnected from the news, etc. Remote rental cabin with no cable, etc. My wife will NEVER fully relax when all of that daily life stuff is 6 feet away. We found she needs to change environment to change mindset. I suggest you try the same if you can swing it, and both of you agree to leave "stuff" (meaning work, kids, stress, etc.) at home when you walk out the door. You might find it helps you too. Usually, if we go on a Friday, we don't come out until Sunday when we leave to go back home. We try not to see others, and just focus on us. If you can pull it off, you might find it's incredibly refreshing and perspective changing. A few years back, we started trying to do this over the New Years holiday. We look forward to it each year.

I sometimes have a hard time grasping how the little things put pressure on her, and get her all out of whack...laundry, work, kids stuff, the state of the house, feeling pressured to have sex, etc. Stuff like that doesn't phase me in the slightest, but it is a MAJOR deal for her. Get four or five of those things piling up on her at the same time, and then something goes slightly wrong in bed that causes her a self-esteem crisis, and boom, you've got a full-blown meltdown on your hands. Been there, done that.

Just some ideas....
 
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So, you get to join this great club...I had 2 doctors that stated that diapers would.be the better option.
after 11 years she still thinks I’m faking it. the point is honesty is the only way to go, don’t expect approval . Tolerance is nice though. You won’t be happy holding it in. and lastly men don’t and can never understand women, it’s also true the other way as well. communication helps and is the only good answer. You might try explaining how embarrassed you were when she confronted you.
 
Shollyknox:
Your posts are excellent and those of us who have issues with unaccepting wives can/should appreciate your recommendations/insights.
Unfortunately in my case too much water may have gone under the bridge for my wife and I to come to an understanding. And age and 45+ years of marriage make it even more difficult. I alternate between optimism and pessimism but the optimistic part of me has taken note of your suggestions.
 
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Rusty - you already do such a good job hiding your diaper from other workers with loud machines ... then again this is different and I don’t want to give bad advice- cheers. 😏
 
amycrinklebutt said:
might be inappropriate, but you are so incredibly open and honest about it I have to write it out loud: this is so naughty I have to congratulate you for it... because that’s how I always hoped getting older would be 😅 accepting of my kinks, just doing whatever I want and having fun with myself!
And well... your wife doesn’t need to know. Everything regarding sex and physical stimulation seems to be really stressful and traumatizing for her and I am sure she would suppress any information about it. She would probably wash the panties and always fold them neatly and put them in your drawer and never mention anything about it again. Which is beautiful and also a bit sad. Still, I wish you many more happy years as a couple <3
Thanks. One thing we learn as we get older is there is no shame in saying what you believe so long as it isn't hurtful to others. That's why I can be open.

We have been married 36+ years. When we got married (I was 38), I promised her 50 years which means I will live to age 88 to fullfil that promise. As I tell her, she may be wiping drool off my face; but, I will be with her until then. After that, it's anybody's guess if she'll keep me around for the insurance payout or kick me to the curb. :ROFLMAO:
 
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TeddyBearCowboy said:
Rusty,

Sometime you gotta come clean. As much as you may be scared to, what if she asked her mother about it and finds out it wasn’t her? Then how do you answer her?

Maybe you will get away with this for now and there will not be furthe incident, but at some point you have to tell her about your desires. It is highly unlikely that you will be able to stop this part of who you are, and it is inevitable that at some point this will come up again.

I can’t promise you that your wife will be accepting of it, and I don’t know what the outcome will be. But if you are in a lifelong relationship, there has to be a point where your partner knows about it.

I know from experience that it is not healthy to be in a relationship like this. I am struggling myself right now with what to do in my own life and I feel as if I am being torn apart and my life is an internal hell of which there is nothing but silence on the outside but I am being burnt alive inside. My wife knows and is not accepting. But while only one of a miriad of things that is in conflict, it is something not resolved and while still married, I am not sure other than a certificate what that actually means anymore.

So, in answer to your post, as one who while not in the same exact situation, but still walked in your shoes, you have to be truthful to what you feel. She either will or will not accept it. Many have, many have not. But keeping this a secret from the person you made marital vows to is not going to have a good ending.

I wish you only the best of wishes and you are in my prayers as you work through this with your wife.
Great advice! I lived it myself and my ex was threatened by my desires and I could never get her to understand that I couldn’t just turn it on and off. It was always there. Now 3 years after we split I am so much happier because I am free to be myself. If I can find a 100% accepting woman that would just add to my happiness but I am fine if that never happens.
 
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DiaperedRider said:
Great advice! I lived it myself and my ex was threatened by my desires and I could never get her to understand that I couldn’t just turn it on and off. It was always there. Now 3 years after we split I am so much happier because I am free to be myself. If I can find a 100% accepting woman that would just add to my happiness but I am fine if that never happens.
If you don’t mind me asking, were the diapers a big reason for the split?
 
Kayleigh said:
Shollyknox:
Your posts are excellent and those of us who have issues with unaccepting wives can/should appreciate your recommendations/insights.
Unfortunately in my case too much water may have gone under the bridge for my wife and I to come to an understanding. And age and 45+ years of marriage make it even more difficult. I alternate between optimism and pessimism but the optimistic part of me has taken note of your suggestions.
Awww...thanks! I'm happy to try to help.

I'm very fortunate that my wife is understanding and mostly tolerant. While not always as enthusiastic about some things as I'd love, I know I've got it better than most guys, and am grateful for what I've got.

Being as you've been together 45 years, things might be a bit different, and I might approach it slightly differently. Does she know about your DL/sissy desires at all?
 
shollyknox said:
Awww...thanks! I'm happy to try to help.

I'm very fortunate that my wife is understanding and mostly tolerant. While not always as enthusiastic about some things as I'd love, I know I've got it better than most guys, and am grateful for what I've got.

Being as you've been together 45 years, things might be a bit different, and I might approach it slightly differently. Does she know about your DL/sissy desires at all?
Yes she knows. I sleep a few nights each week in a diaper (we sleep separately) but she objects if I still have it on ( under clothing) while having breakfast. She always says it’s getting to be too much. While it could be worse, what bothers me is that her lack of acceptance is a rejection of a part of me. I don’t plan on wearing 24/7 but I would just like the ability to just wear whenever I might feel like wearing, covered or uncovered.
She also knows my sissy interest as she has come across my rhumba diaper covers. She has more problems with this interest. I sort of understand as I don’t know if I could actually wear my rhumbas in front of her.
 
Kayleigh said:
She always says it’s getting to be too much.
I've heard this before myself. Have you sat down and just had a heart-to-heart with her about it, and given her a chance to explain why she's resistant/hesitant/worried, or why it bothers her so? Have you talked with her about where you see this going, what you want with it, and why it's important to you? She may be assuming things are going in a direction that you have no intention of delving into.

Maybe she has concerns that you can address and calm her fears. If this has progressed very quickly, she may be worried that it's going to accelerate and go further, to one of those scenarios like Electrically described above from the store. She may, and likely does, have fears that are completely unwarranted, but until you calm them, they're going to remain, and likely loom large.

Also, you probably should be prepared for her to say something like, "You just look so silly/ridiculous", "I married a man", "Why would anyone want to wear and use a diaper, it's icky" or "It just turns me off", etc. When she says it, it's going to sting. Try not to lash out in anger or shut down.

Also, it's worth noting that just like it's OK for you to be turned on by this or whatever other reasonable fantasies/fetishes you may have, it's also OK for her to be turned off by this one (or two). Perhaps this just isn't her thing, just like full bushes, bukkake, CBT, caning, or scat (or whatever) aren't yours. The trick will be finding a balance that you both can live with.

Kayleigh said:
While it could be worse, what bothers me is that her lack of acceptance is a rejection of a part of me.

That is certainly one way that you can look at it, but it's kind of an all or nothing take. Remember, Obi-Wan always said, "Only a Sith deals in absolutes".

If you take a moment and look at it from her perspective, she may feel that you are forcing this on her or changing the ground rules of your relationship arbitrarily. She may feel that you are forcing a turn-off on her, as mentioned above. I'd be careful jumping to absolutes in your thinking like that if I were you. Life's generally much more nuanced, and that sort of thinking can lead to anger and resentment, oftentimes unnecessarily.

She may also not realize that you feel that is part of you. It sounds like she thinks this is just something you like to do for fun, like playing golf or hunting or something. That's an easy assumption for someone who doesn't have a fetish of any type. I think it's hard sometimes for non-fetishy types to understand that it is more than just a passing interest or a hobby. If it truly is a part of who you are, and it sounds like it is, if you haven't already, you might need to explain calmly the difference to her. You might also need to tell her that this is part of you, and has been for a long time, and that you've just kept it repressed and don't want to do that anymore (if that's the case).

I might word it a little more softly that what you said above, but I think it's a fair thing to tell her that you feel like she's rejecting a part of you, and that it hurts. Your feelings are valid too. She may not realize that you feel this deeply about it. Be prepared though, she may react strongly to that type of statement, so I'd try to couch it in terms that don't make it seem like you're attacking her.

Kayleigh said:
She also knows my sissy interest as she has come across my rhumba diaper covers. She has more problems with this interest. I sort of understand as I don’t know if I could actually wear my rhumbas in front of her.

Yeah, that can be a tough one for women. Understand that it's very likely that her world view and more importantly, her view of your relationship and life together, is built on the foundation of her being the woman, you being the man, and everybody staying in their lane. For people of my generation and yours, that's just how it was. Breaking out of that mold can be quite difficult for some.

You being a sissy may be perceived by her as an attack on, or a usurpation of, the heart of her femininity. She likely doesn't understand that you you love her and her femininity so much, that you want to emulate it and make it, and by extension her, a part of you. She may also not understand the pressures/stresses that so-called "toxic masculinity" (to use the kiddie's terminology) or even just classic masculinity can place on a guy, and the urge to get as far away from that as you can, when you can, is very real and, and being a sissy in the evenings helps you deal with those stresses and be a better balanced person. Explain how you feel. Then listen to how she feels about what you've said.

Ultimately, though, you can always fall back on the argument of "Look honey, it's just underwear, of one type or another. Does my choice of underwear and what I do in it really make that much difference to you one way or another, on a day to day basis?" Y'all have been together for 45+ years now. You've seen each other at your bests and your worsts, and have made it this far together. Surely, your choice of underwear can't be a big enough deal to toss all of that aside.

In my observation, marriage is about compromises. It's about meeting each other half-way on some things. Sometimes you get what you want, sometimes she gets what she wants, sometimes you meet in the middle. Finding that middle is often the tricky part, particularly when it comes to diametrically opposing view points. Maybe that compromise is that you don't come to the table without your diaper/panties covered. Maybe certain days you do, certain days you don't. Maybe you have a day each week that you can be all baby, all day, and the rest of the time, you keep it in your room. Maybe she agrees to be mommy and change your diapers every other day, and on the off days, you dress up like a fireman and lay hose to her or be her leather daddy (or whatever it is that gets her off). Whatever you find that can work for the two of you. Who knows...maybe she has a secret fetish or two she's been hiding as well, and you can help each other out here.

Maybe you do a few things to minimize the discomfort for her, it this stuff makes her uncomfortable. For example, wash all your own panties and handle all of your diapers. Hang them up to dry out of her line of sight, in your own room, or whatever. Be discrete in storing your things...she may be concerned that visting family or friends may see something. Try to find ways to make it easy on her if she's having a hard time, and try to be respectful of any requests she makes if they're reasonable.

Realize though that you may not get to full acceptance or active participation at this point in your lives, because people get set in their ways and in their viewpoints. But, if you can get to tolerance, you can find ways to make it work and be happy. She may just never be able to be the dommy-mommy or feminizing fetish goddess you fantasize about or have built her up to be in your ideal fantasy. Most of our wives can't, honestly. I've struggled with this as well. It may just be too big a leap for her at this point. Then again, she might come around once she sees it's just a bit of harmless fun in the privacy of your home. Hard to predict.

Either way, I hope you can find the balance you need.

Cheers,
Holly
 
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That’s one helluva good post Holly.
 
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It sure is!
 
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Kayleigh said:
Yes she knows. I sleep a few nights each week in a diaper (we sleep separately) but she objects if I still have it on ( under clothing) while having breakfast. She always says it’s getting to be too much. While it could be worse, what bothers me is that her lack of acceptance is a rejection of a part of me. I don’t plan on wearing 24/7 but I would just like the ability to just wear whenever I might feel like wearing, covered or uncovered.
She also knows my sissy interest as she has come across my rhumba diaper covers. She has more problems with this interest. I sort of understand as I don’t know if I could actually wear my rhumbas in front of her.
I feel the same way. My wife does not accept the diaper part of me and its been a BIG part of me my since I was a child. I have no desire to be 24/7 either. BTW, I've always loved the look of rhumbas.
 
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