Wearing too much, Is it a bad thing?

[bobbilly]

I've been going long periods wearing my nappies 24/7 and peeing at the slightest urge and not clenching. This is a binge/purge cycle and when I'm in a purge its takes a while to readjust my to wearing underwear again and not having to use the toilet every 20 minutes, also I have to concentrate on clenching my spinster muscles. On my last purge and stopped wearing again - 4 months ago I was at the point that when I got the urge to pee it was like I need to pee, NOW!... I would try and get to the bathroom quickly and on the way my sphincter would automatically let go and I peed small drops in my underwear uncontrollable, At the toilet I would pee and it would be a small amount, pretty much this was happening all the time... Also I was having moderate post micturition dribble quite a lot. It sorted it self out after some weeks not wearing nappies...

I'm back in a binge and basically my wetting abilities have started off as they were before. I'm wetting at the slightest urge without clenching, I can feel my sphincter being open and I'm peeing in small drips and dribbles without effect, in all positions... Before if I was laying on my side my sphincter felt like it would spasm and clench when I peed.. Now I can pee on side in a little dribbles without the clench reflex, when I move I can feel post micturition dribble dribble out, still not clenching.. I feel a dull ache in my bladder all the time even though I just dribbled out seconds before...

I haven't flooded a nappy in awhile, I'm wearing Molicare Slip Supers... these are very comfortable, they feel like my proper underwear, I have no problems wearing them all the time.. I haven't faced any situations where I'm uncomfortable wearing them...

I just feel like my continence is slipping away, this would be a big problem when I'm in the purge cycle...

Is wearing too much a bad thing?

 

[Sheepies]

If you feel yourself losing control, I'd tone down wearing. Or at least train yourself to hold your bladder longer

 

[depends4me]

I just feel like my continence is slipping away, this would be a big problem when I'm in the purge cycle...

Is wearing too much a bad thing?

In general, I don't think there's a "right" answer to that question. It depends on the wearer's goals. But in your case, I think you answered the question in the first paragraph I quoted. Looks like it's time to cut back.

 

[ade]

I just feel like my continence is slipping away, this would be a big problem when I'm in the purge cycle...

You should practise the Kegel exercises and the stop-start exercises [of urination] between your periods of nappy recreation.
Pissing and shitting aren't just simple open-close affairs, there's a muscular sequence which requires tone and strength for proper control and sensing.
Once you relax control, you get chaotic things happening (including things like spasms).

 

[PCBaby]

Ade has already made the key point. You have let your pelvic floor and bladder muscles weaken, so do Kegels or pelvic floor exercises. both will help nut Kegels are better.

 

[bobbilly]

Thing is when I’m in a binge I try and simulate IC for prolonged periods. I can’t find the right balance with wearing, it’s either all or nothing. I experience bladder flutters/spasms. Weak stream when using toilet, post dribble. I also have weak erections. I know my pelvic area is weaker. I can pretty much keep my sphincter muscles relaxed all the time unless I have a spasm then it clenches, that’s how I know it’s open. I wet in weak drips and dribbles. I haven’t had a flood in months. My nappies hold out really good this way. Oh and like know when wetting laying on my side I experience a dull feeling in my bladder. I have both knees together and can still wet in little drips and gushes. What’s this mean?

I know that IC isn’t right for me in the long term. Can I ask what to expect if I continue wearing in this binge/purge cycle.

I’m happy wearing but then the purge hits and it’s an effect to go back to underwear.

 

[ade]

I know that IC isn’t right for me in the long term. Can I ask what to expect if I continue wearing in this binge/purge cycle.

Full bladder voiding (flooding) is an essential part of the process as it flushes out the old mucus and shedded lining of the bladder and tract.
You can expect UTIs.

 

[bobbilly]

Full bladder voiding (flooding) is an essential part of the process as it flushes out the old mucus and shedded lining of the bladder and tract.
You can expect UTIs.

I been doing it this way for quite awhile, never at a UTI in my life.

 

[Diaperdudeinmass]

Others have explained the medical side of it. For me being a DL I don’t want to wear everyday. I like the days I wear but don’t want to wear out my love for diapers.

 

[ade]

I been doing it this way for quite awhile, never at a UTI in my life.

Most people can get away with not crashing their cars, for a while, but they inevitably do, just because they don't follow proper procedure whilst driving

Anyway, forewarned is forearmed, so if you fall and break your legs, don't come running to us

 

[PCBaby]

Well it won't make you IC, but you are heading to wearing full time, which believe me is a life changer, you need to know where all the loos are, where you can change, what to carry in your changing bag. how to dispose of wet nappies, intimacy with a SO, self image, ego ptoblems, anxiety and depression. do those exercices.

 

[bobbilly]

The worst negative I think about going 24/7 is that it's going to restrict me going on holiday/vacation for months at a time... I want to go backpacking and wouldn't be able to carry a weeks worth of nappies, that equals 28 nappies so two packages a week plus extra for emergency. I could rent a air B&B for a month in Europe and have my nappies shipped from SaveExpress in Germany for my arrival at apartment. Also if I commit to just wearing all the time I wouldn't cope with bowel incontinence, already wearing 24/7 I just go in my nappy if it's convenient out of laziness. I think if I had bowel IC that could stop me going abroad...

I do already have good coping strategies with wearing 24/7... I have a messenger bag with my supplies in, extra nappies, nappy bags, skin cleaning foam, dry wipes, gloves etc... I have a disabled toilet key so use disabled toilets when needed, they have clinical waste bins in toilet... My friends all know I wear nappies, this isn't a problem.... I'm actually on social security benefits for disabilities I have and receive a support package from social services... My support manager knows about my '' incontinence'' as she was involved in setting up having my nappies delivered on auto order every two weeks to my house, paid out my social services account... I have also been in psychiatric hospital a few times and wore 24/7 there... It's pretty much know that I suffer from IC.... I haven't a problem with people knowing..

Its just on a purge I have no interest in wearing nappies... I'm on a strong antipsychotic injection and it's stopped my labido so limited interest in wearing then bang I'm wearing again 24/7 for months... I'm very conflicted about wearing nappies, its all or nothing... I can't just enjoy a night just wearing nappies without wetting and not wanting to become incontinent... When deep down I know IC wouldn't be right for me...

 

[KitsuneFox]

Not using your bladder muscles causes Muscle Atrophy, and in turn causes Overactive Bladder .
You can become permanently incontinent if you wear too long ... according to many other posts in this forum, it can take 6 months to a year to lose a lot of your bladder control.
The "2 year old" I take care of lost control after a year of using diapers 24 / 7 ... now-a-days he is 100% bladder incontinent .

 

[PCBaby]

Not using your bladder muscles causes Muscle Atrophy, and in turn causes Overactive Bladder .
You can become permanently incontinent if you wear too long ... according to many other posts in this forum, it can take 6 months to a year to lose a lot of your bladder control.
The "2 year old" I take care of lost control after a year of using diapers 24 / 7 ... now-a-days he is 100% bladder incontinent .

Sorry, you can't become incontinet this way, the autonomic nervous system doesn't allow it. What does happen in the Muscle atrophy you mentioned.
To treat that problem means loads of Kegel or pelvic floor exercises and perhaps Urethral milking if there is a urethral resovoir.

 

[Kayleigh]

I get the sense that you already know that you need to regain a bit more control over your wearing. Many of us enjoy wearing but not 24/7. In fact I find wearing sporadically contributes to my enjoyment. I really look forward to my next diaper and when I’m not wearing I actually like the feeling of freedom as a change from the padding.
Good luck in figuring this out. I think you’ve gotten a lot of good perspectives.

 

[jojokelly]

I have been wearing a diaper to bed for 10 years now. I’ve been wearing diapers more and more when not at work. Yes, I have noticed a change in my voiding habits similar to you. I wear pull-ups when not diapered because of post urinary dribbling. I remember the last time (a few years ago)I wore regular underwear (with only a small, thin pad) and suddenly I was wetting myself out of left field! I was in the bank and I took off.

 

[jojokelly]

Another thing: I saw a pelvic floor specialist. She knew about my OAB and post urinary dribbling. I told her about my shy bladder syndrome. This woman saw me in a pull-up and asked about it. I told her I wear it for security. She explained the psychological aspects of our methods of holding vs. going. She worried that wearing pull-ups was actually making my situation worse. Her goal was getting me doing kegels and wearing regular underwear with a thin pad.

 

[PCBaby]

If you suffer with PMD (Post Micturation Dribbling), then have a look at this site.

Post Micturition Dribble (PMD) | Bladder & Bowel Community

Post Micturition Dribble (PMD), or after dribble, is an involuntary loss of urine immediately after leaving the toilet. Read about causes and symptoms here.

www.bladderandbowel.org

it gives you the instructions on how to do urethral milking (not as bad as it sounds)

 

[irnub]

A lot of stuff to address here, but I'll do my best:

As far as fetishes go, the general consensus in the psychology community is that they're perfectly fine and normal as long as they don't interfere with your ability to go about your normal day to day life. I know a few people who have "gone 24/7" as a lifestyle thing and it doesn't seem to hinder anything. I also know some people who have done it for a few weeks and it was stopped them from doing a lot of things. Whether or not becoming dependent on diapers counts as interfering with your ability to go about your normal life is up for you to judge for yourself and how it impacts your own life.

As far as becoming incontinent from excess wearing, my experience is that it's largely a combination of people passing off fantasy as reality + wishful thinking on the part of the wearer + gaining the ability to control your bladder and related muscles. When I was first getting into diapers, I remember having a lot of trouble getting myself to wet, and also observing more frequent/stronger urges for barely anything in my bladder after a week or two of constant wearing. That all went away after a day or two of not wearing, especially with a bit of practice by holding it until I got up to what I considered a "normal" amount and could therefore re calibrate by idea of what a full bladder felt like. Now that I've been wearing diapers a lot for the past 2 years of living on my own I've not had any similar issues. I can go without having to think about it terribly much, which means that I can get close to the "wetting without having any control" feeling while still staying in control.

I'd also like to point out that becoming incontinent and/or wearing 24/7 are subsets of DL as a fetish, and are by no means some kind of ultimate end goal of every DL. You can definitely enjoy diapers without either of those two things. In my case, I found that my thoughts about being actually dependent on them dissipated as I accepted myself more. For me personally I guess it was just my brain trying to justify it in some way.

And that leads me to the whole binge/purge cycle. I used to get that a lot (never as bad as some people, but it was definitely there). A lot of it I think was because I lived with my family and had to keep it hidden, so I kept reinforcing the feelings of shame about it (fortunately all of that is pretty much gone now that I live on my own, have several RL babyfur friends, and a very accepting bf). One thing that I found helped flatten the cycles while I lived at home was forcing myself to wear even when I didn't want to. Not 24/7, and not even making myself use them, but just wear one each day while I was in the purge end of the cycle.

edit: also, that technique PCBaby linked works great for post-urination dribbles. That website mentioned thee fingers, but I personally like to use the back of my thumb to reach underneath and push up as that can be easily done one-handed.

 

[PCBaby]

the milking also takes practice and a little bit more pressure than the item says. My urologist suggested using a knuckle to get the required effect.

And as I keep saying, you DO NOT want to be incontinent, it changes your entire life and usually not in a very good way. So keep control and choose when you use your nappy.