ABDLism and Ethnicities

[Aspie69]

I've noticed that ABDL community is made up of prodominatly white people and Asians. I've seen very few Latino ABDLs and I have NEVER seen any black people in the community. Why is that? Any ideas?

 

[LittleAndAlone]

Maybe not looking enough? I see all kinds.

 

[Nowididit]

Maybe not looking enough? I see all kinds.

OP can look harder but they'll still find our community is predominantly white with a splash of Asian, a dab of blacks and a subtle sprinkle of various other ethnicities.
Just like ABDLs are predominantly men/boys.

 

[LittleAndAlone]

Could just be different cultural values from where different people originate from. If you're surrounded by a culture of overt masculinity and tough guy expectations all your life, or strict religious upbringing, or whatever, and you have this, you're more likely to never share that side of you ever and even reject and deprive yourself.

It's already a highly closeted and clandestine thing as it is. Additional outside social pressures to be masculine or whatever facing groups that are already minority or underrepresented in your area is just going to make it seem like it's even more rare.

The sampling of 1500 or so people I saw at CAPcon looked to have a similar distribution of ethnicities and age ranges and male vs female ratios and straight vs lgbt and fat vs skinny and all that stuff as a carnival or trip to Disney Land or any other normal thing so I dunno. Assuming I remember correctly. I wasnt exactly looking for it and making a spreadsheet.

I could say I never see any Muslim Indian ABDLs, but I never see Muslim Indian people at the grocery store or the movie theater either in my part of the world so that doesn't mean anything.

Also need to account for trigger factors. We still don't even know how or why this even happens. Say your trigger factor was the scent or feel of Pampers at school age or something, or potty training tauma. But someone else is from a part of the world that only uses cloth or never had Pampers, or doesn't make a big deal about potty training, etc.

 

[Mehrabad98]

I'll chime in as an Iranian. There are definitely many ABDLs in Iran, but for obvious reasons it's extremely clandestine, and most of the activity is on instagram and telegram, in Persian, not English. Oh, and it goes without saying, but this site and pretty much anything kink-related is blocked in Iran.

 

[Roland007]

I'll chime in as an Iranian. There are definitely many ABDLs in Iran, but for obvious reasons it's extremely clandestine, and most of the activity is on instagram and telegram, in Persian, not English. Oh, and it goes without saying, but this site and pretty much anything kink-related is blocked in Iran.

Curious, how does it work in Iran? Do you have meetings?, where do you buy diapers? Iran is one of the countries people would not expect a ABDL community.

 

[Roland007]

When looking at the population of people that identify as AB/DL/Little/CG/etc you also have to be aware that internet shows us the bubble of our choice. We speak English because we can understand that, I've read that ABDL also exists in China, but we wouldn't be able to read or find it. So it might be a global thing, but we can only see a small part.

 

[longallsboy]

I've noticed that ABDL community is made up of prodominatly white people and Asians. I've seen very few Latino ABDLs and I have NEVER seen any black people in the community. Why is that? Any ideas?

You really think so? Technically I'm not really an ABDL as I don't even wear diapers. I do have some childlike inclinations due to my having Classic Autism, which I think is more frustrating than anything. I'm Asian American, if it counts. But no, I never thought that most of ABs were White and Asian....where did you get that from? I think that Autistic people are more likely to be ABDL, but that may be because some use it as a coping strategy in regards to being bullied, of which is sadly way too common with Autism whether one is an adult baby or not. But the number of ABs with Autism can't be that high and I'm guessing 8-10% of ABs are Autistic, certainly not even close to a majority. However, 8-10% Autistic would be still overrepresentation as the population of Autistic people is opposed to normal neurotypical people is around 1 in 100.

I have seen Hispanic people online who are ABs.

Also as for having Autism, if you are so severely impacted that 99% of the time you act like a 4 year old emotionally and socially, do you even truly "regress" if you ALWAYS act like that, nearly? To regress would mean the intention of actively setting aside your maturity and regressing. If you didn't have any maturity to set aside, how could you really be regressing to start with??

Like with me, I'm emotionally and socially like a 4 1/2 year old. Unfortunately, probably nearly everyone would say that I truly am like a 4 1/2 year old emotionally and socially, from former college instructors who had me in their class, to friends with higher functioning Autism than me, to my relatives, to my parents, perhaps even actual preschoolers, parents, and almost anyone. Hell, my psychiatrist might even say that. It isn't unusual for even college graduates who have Autism to be emotionally and socially in the range of 7 to 11 years old. I've seen many medical and research papers stating this.

- longallsboy

 

[longallsboy]

OP can look harder but they'll still find our community is predominantly white with a splash of Asian, a dab of blacks and a subtle sprinkle of various other ethnicities.
Just like ABDLs are predominantly men/boys.

Very interesting.

That sounds like the demographics of little boys who wear long-alls and jon jons (and T strap shoes) in the Deep South like in states such as Alabama and South Carolina. I've found out basically that the vast amount of little boys wearing that sort of clothing and shoes are the vast majority White, with blond or brown hair. There are also some Asian American kids wearing that in the South. Whereas it is nearly unheard of in African American children, even for dressy occasions like church, although there are a few exceptions. But then, also, I could definitely say that outside of the South, and north of the Mason Dixon line or west of the Dallas - Oklahoma - Kansas longitude, it is almost unheard of for even Caucasian children to wear long-alls. And in the West Coast, even casual overalls like Oshkosh B'Gosh are rare among young children of any race at all. And forget about T strap shoes or Mary Janes (which some West Coasters would consider girly) or long-alls, with boys on the West Coast, people are very casual on the West Coast.

- longallsboy

 

[siysiy]

Hee, hee how much trouble am I igoing to be in, if I push the Big Red Shiney Button!

It got do not push written all over it as well.

PLAESE LET ME PUSH IT!

 

[Pelusos]

I've noticed that ABDL community is made up of prodominatly white people and Asians. I've seen very few Latino ABDLs and I have NEVER seen any black people in the community. Why is that? Any ideas?

If you watch hundred hours of ABDL porno just like me, you can see not only white and asian persons there, I'm talking about not professional persons but persons who seem to be real ABDLs. I think if you live in a cultural area where you wore diapers in your childhood you have chance to become ABDL. Maybe we don`t meet each other because of different laguage, lack of internet.

 

[longallsboy]

When looking at the population of people that identify as AB/DL/Little/CG/etc you also have to be aware that internet shows us the bubble of our choice. We speak English because we can understand that, I've read that ABDL also exists in China, but we wouldn't be able to read or find it. So it might be a global thing, but we can only see a small part.

Apparently adult babies do definitely exist in Asia. Definitely in some places like Singapore. I mean have you ever seen Joey Cuties on YouTube? The way he looks, I don't know how he can look like that in his 20s. He looks much younger than that, a lot younger, almost like a child, even though he isn't. Then, on the other hand, I looked like I was a 15 year old easily when I was 25 years old (and when I was a high school substitute teacher for a short time when I was that age, not only students thought I was 15, but I was frequently mistaken by staff members and other teachers to be a student ). Even now in my mid late 40s, I look very young. Not like a preteen or anything, as I did go through changes in my teen years (puberty), BUT I do look like I'm 22 years old or so, easily. I also have a rather babyish looking face. Picture a 4 year old's face on a much taller, elongated body. In comparison to many other people I know (both Caucasian and Asian and other groups too), I look much younger. No gray hair, no wrinkles, nothing. I'm Asian American, but so is my cousin my age and she has plenty of gray hair and has been dyeing her hair for quite some time. People say sometimes I look young because I don't have a job and have no worries. I think that is bullcrap though -- because I have to deal with a lot of stress and bullying just for being Autistic in itself. And if not having worries because I didn't have a job and was "carefree", and that was truly the case, that still doesn't explain why some other people with Autism that are unemployed or don't have a job still look older (The unemployment rate for Autism, even for those with college degrees, is around 85%. Even convicted felons who are released from prison don't have anywhere close to an unemployment rate of 85%). I have a friend with higher functioning Autism who is unemployed like me and has a good living situation (he lives with his mom) and he is one year older than me. And he has had gray hair come in for a long time. So not having a job isn't a reason. Personally, my mom told me a month or two ago (I still live with my parents too) that she thinks maybe I'm not aging fast because I was usually around preschoolers quite a lot - at least before COVID 19 happened. I regularly socialized around preschoolers and toddlers for years, maybe even decades, rather. And maybe since I was a young child myself back in the 1980s, long time ago. It also isn't unusual at all for Autistic people to have friends / peers who are very much older than them (elderly people) or much younger than them (preschoolers, toddlers, younger children). Possibly because also those age groups tend to be much less judgmental of differences and disabilities, and in my case, are more accepting of me even if I lack certain social skills that most chronological age adults do have (in part because most chronological age adults are neurotypical and do not have Autism).

- longallsboy

 

[Serendiapity]

I think a few factors might skew the sample demographics of people we see in our community:

— The vast majority of ABDL-centric interactions take place online. Access to the Internet is obviously essential for active participation in online spaces, and I gather it’s also important for anyone figuring out that this is what they’re into. (How many of you used resources like ADISC, Bittergrey’s site, etc. when you were coming to terms with being this way? I’d guess many of you!) Internet access is obviously not available to everyone on the planet, being most ubiquitous in the “developed world.” Furthermore, there’s obviously the fact that even where Internet access is a given, non-English-speaking ABDL and kink communities remain invisible, or at best obscure, to us, further limiting the pool of who we are able to see as ABDL.
— On a similar note, not every culture across the world uses diapers at all. Even when they do, the average age at which potty-training is accomplished is earlier in some cultures than others; I’m not positively sure, but I’m under the impression that east Asia and the global West tend to fall well above the mean on that metric. (Of course, we don’t know for sure that ABDL is ever caused by late potty-training, but I have to at least think some level of exposure to diapers is necessary.)
— It’s a simple fact that it can be intimidating for minority group members of any kind to visibly broadcast their identity in majority-dominated spaces. Just like I have to think the male/female split is a bit more balanced than we give it credit for, due in part to the way many women very reasonably fear harassment or unwanted attention from other ABDLs, I question whether people who are racial/ethnic minorities in our community may feel similarly. (And on that note, it’s not like racial identity is strictly relevant to identity as ABDL, and so I imagine many people just wouldn’t see any real reason to bring it up at all.)

 

[SparkyDog]

Caucasian might dominate this world but it's not exclusive by any means. Seen all ethnicities with some sort of diaper involvement

 

[Cottontail]

When looking at the population of people that identify as AB/DL/Little/CG/etc you also have to be aware that internet shows us the bubble of our choice. We speak English because we can understand that, I've read that ABDL also exists in China, but we wouldn't be able to read or find it. So it might be a global thing, but we can only see a small part.

Pretty much this ^^^. One can hardly expect to grasp the global extent of ABDL while spending time in English-only forums like ADISC. That said, I expect there are parts of the world where ABDL is much less commonly expressed, whether because of different childhood norms that make its formation less likely, or because of strict, conservative social norms that make acting on it difficult or even dangerous.

 

[siysiy]

OK, No one about supervisoring me, Yea I know it scary, but the opportunity are endless.

So this Big Red Shiney Button, that should be pushed, I am thinking may it would be better if I don't. Don't want to be put on the naughty step by Moo again.

But in answer to OP I know quite a few littles that are Littles of colour.

 

[puddlefeet]

Tumblr has a lot of different ethnicities from what I've seen! I do agree, tho... mostly white and Asian.

 

[Prillprillprill]

I think it's more likely those are the demographics of this and some other sites. I suspect it exists pretty equally everywhere and apparent differences are related to visibility. I personally know littles of many different ethnicities

 

[buridan]

If you go to a local munch in an area where most people are white, you're probably going to find mostly white people at the munch.

If you go to a diaper night at a gay bar, you're probably going to find mostly gay and bisexual men.

If you hang out in online spaces (especially online spaces that allow private messages), you will see relatively fewer people from groups that are relatively more likely to experience harassment online.

If you go to conventions and other social gatherings that draw attendees from a wide geographic area and take active, visible steps to exclude harassers and creepers, you're likely to see more diversity.

 

[BobbiSueEllen]

I've noticed that ABDL community is made up of predominantly white people and Asians. I've seen very few Latino ABDLs and I have NEVER seen any black people in the community. Why is that? Any ideas?

I am 50% LatinX (supersedes Latino and Latina, which are gender-oriented). I know of two AB/DLs of African descent. I used African instead of black because there are many Hindi people who have very dark skin and didn't want to contribute to any confusion on the issue.

Also, am 37.5% Dutch and 12.5% Asian (Israeli, the country of which is considered Asian). Sorry if it sounds more like a quirky, corrective lecture.

Oh...I'm 100% autie as well.