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    Simple exercise, should we keep it civil, but Politically what would you consider yourself to be, what issues and what side of the issues are most important to you.

    So let me start this off.

    I am a Libertarian Constitutionalist, simply put I believe in big limits to what the government can do, and we as individuals should be free to do as we please (figuratively speaking)

    From a New Zealand perspective these would be the most important issues.

    Complete constitutional reform, Constitutional law is my weird little hobby, and I have studied the New Zealand Constitution and how it came to be in depth, and have no grounds to actually believe that the New Zealand Government has any lawful authority to exist.

    So a full constitutional reform is needed. I'd like to see New Zealand ditch the monarchy and have a directly elected President while largely ceremonial would have numerous powers to keep government in check. I would also replace the Westminster system, as Australia has shown time and time again, that your Prime Minister can be kicked out of office changing the entire direction of the government is ludicrous, the Prime Minister and deputy again should be democratically elected so that can not simply be deposed by their party, I'd almost rather ban political parties all together.

    Also I would like to see major Judicial Reform, in the sense that by large the belief of our judiciary is to uphold the law... not be a check on the lawfulness of government.

    Now I am not economist, and am not a huge fan of Minimum Wage, but with inflation so high, I don't know what steps could be taken to lower inflation, but until such a time, a Minimum wage would need to stay.

    As Much as I am for the free market, I do not trust it. Corporations ruined capitalism, and am much more a fan of Individual Capitalism than Corporatism.

    I'd would decriminalize all drugs, but would increase penalties crimes committed under the influence.

    Now if I was American, Some of the points I would still take.

    But I would focus on Defense of the homeland, not being an global empire. I would be assassinated after I began to cleanse the US government of the greatest threats to National Security. NSA, CIA, TSA would be reigned in, or eliminated all together.

    Simplify the Tax Code, Simplify almost everything. Grant statehood to DC, or amend the US Constitution, so that full voting rights and voice are given to residents of the territories, so their Congressmen actually have a vote in congress... as they are not states they are granted only one senator, not the two states get.

    Also I'd amend the constitution to reverse congresses powers for war. Really only half need to vote to go to war, but a super majority is required for peace?

    I think I started rambling a lot..... but that is what is important to me right now. Where do you stand and what issues are most important to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleManAlex View Post
    Now I am not economist, and am not a huge fan of Minimum Wage, but with inflation so high, I don't know what steps could be taken to lower inflation, but until such a time, a Minimum wage would need to stay.

    As Much as I am for the free market, I do not trust it. Corporations ruined capitalism, and am much more a fan of Individual Capitalism than Corporatism.

    I'd would decriminalize all drugs, but would increase penalties crimes committed under the influence.

    Now if I was American, Some of the points I would still take.

    But I would focus on Defense of the homeland, not being an global empire. I would be assassinated after I began to cleanse the US government of the greatest threats to National Security. NSA, CIA, TSA would be reigned in, or eliminated all together.

    Simplify the Tax Code, Simplify almost everything. Grant statehood to DC, or amend the US Constitution, so that full voting rights and voice are given to residents of the territories, so their Congressmen actually have a vote in congress... as they are not states they are granted only one senator, not the two states get.

    Also I'd amend the constitution to reverse congresses powers for war. Really only half need to vote to go to war, but a super majority is required for peace?
    I basically agree with all of this with regard to America's current government. Since this isn't a thread on we agree or disagree on, let me share my views to add to the list.


    I believe my ideals fit best with Bernie Sanders in the idea of a Democratic Socialist society. Although they are probably a little different.

    I believe that the purpose of societies was fundamentally started as a means to protect each other within the society. If you look at the tribal origins of society within humanity, the central goal for that society was to keep everybody fed, to keep them safe, and to teach them how to become the next generation in control. I feel like society has moved far away from that because it has become bigger and greedier, and has just turned into a new playing field for predators to take over by means of economy rather than violence. Tribes would often have respect and placement for their elderly who were seen as being the wise men and women of the camp. I believe it is the place of society to take care of the elderly and to make them a fundamental part of our education and governance, but not an overpowering element otherwise we can be stuck in our old ways.

    I believe in the separation of power, and I feel like with our technology today, it would be very reasonable to have people as a whole take vote on a number of governmental affairs, but perhaps not all, since the popular vote does not always make the well informed vote.

    I believe that in any society, all laws should be readable, namely of readable length, so that the common man or woman is capable of spending a reasonable length of time to become acquainted with the laws that govern them. As LittleManAlex also stated, I believe that tax code should be simplified drastically. I believe as well though, that the lower income class should not be expected to pay as much in taxes percentage wise, as the higher income, because an organization built on the backs of the weak is bound to crumble, or at the least, economically enslave the weak to never become powerful.

    I believe as well though that there needs to be the capability for people to reach points of economic supremacy, because people are still often driven by greed, however it needs to be controlled. With our current economic structure, this idea wouldn't work well, however in different circumstances, I believe that well laid economic structure would have a cap on the maximum wealth a person could have (based on the minimum wealth found in society), rather than concern ourselves with the minimum we will allow a person to have and then let the top income roam free. If the wealthy are withheld from gaining more income because the poor of the nation have less, then the wealthy will be obligated to increase the income of the poor if the rich want to increase their wealth.

    I believe taking part of a society such as this should require that the individual should work a reasonable set number of hours in whatever job to guarantee their livelihood, and those who are less capable due to things such as disability, will have their role in society evaluated to some fair level. Those who do not take part will not have the same assurances, however there does need to be some level of welfare for those who do not want to do their part in society, namely because the world as a whole is owned and there is nowhere else for the individuals to go, they can't leave into the wilderness and make a farm for themselves. If there was a specific area where they can go lawlessly away and grow their own crops and whatever, then that would be the exception to the idea of free welfare.

    In the case that people do put in their reasonable set of hours that guarantee their survival in the community, then their extra amount of work will go towards their extra wealth. For instance: a banker and a garbage man who both work 20 hours a week (more or less depending on what is affordable to society), would both be paid in the form of access to health care, food, housing, and education. After those 20 hours, the additional amount of time they put into their jobs, based on time, effort, and complexity, would be additional income that they can use for things such as TV's, nice cars, and whatever.


    So basically, that is my theory/opinion on society, and how it should work.

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    All I will say, is that I am Center-Left.
    I simply will not elaborate much more than that.


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    I am a Liberal who votes Democrat. When I first started looking at politics 10 years ago I was very much a fan of Jon Stewart and had the mindset of "If they're Democrat they're right." I am still a big fan of Stewart but I've taken a more balanced approach and try to see things from both sides of the angle.

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    My instincts are Libertarian. But I see as much failure in the behaviour of individual humans as I do in government, so in practise, I believe in a balance between the two. I also firmly believe that technological progress requires either big government or big business, and that a truly Libertarian socio-economic order would make the modern world completely impossible. Whether you think that is a good or bad thing is up to you.

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    I identify as a liberal, a progressive, and a Democratic Socialist. Basically, my political ideology is nearly exactly lined up with Bernie Sanders, if not slightly to the left of him.

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    I'm a democrat, a liberal, and a Keynesian. Sometimes at least. I'm also strongly in favor of individual privacy, I like real estate development, I support free trade over protectionism, and while I'm pro-union in theory, I sometimes find myself opposing them because a lot of their policies involve shooting their own folks in the foot.

    I vote primarily on economic and social issues: I support democrats because I want a liberal social policy (yes abortion, yes gay marriage) and I want direct government intervention in areas where it's appropriate rather than tax cuts and trickle-down effects.

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    I term myself as a democratic leftist and I am a member of the Green Party here in England. I have a great deal of love for historical leftist British politicians such as Nye Bevan and although I am not a Labour Party member and disagree with him on environmental issues I have a great deal of respect for Jeremy Corbyn. If I was American then I would be currently be backing Bernie Sanders. I believe it is the duty of Governments to provide for the poorest and most disadvantaged citizens wherever possible. I am a big proponent of the NHS, and welfare state here in the UK and am opposed the privatization and ongoing cuts which they're are being subjected to. I'm proud to say that I'm a member of the only British political party that to my knowledge has all it's policy decided upon at it's annual conferences by regular party members not the power players within the party.

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    I don't really identify with any particular label. My political beliefs and values are just what I believe in. I worry that, if you put a word to your beliefs, it would be too easy to see that word and jump on a bandwagon without thinking it through.

    At the moment, the biggest political issue for me is the imminent collapse of the NHS, which the government are maliciously and tactically depriving of funds because they want to personally profit by putting corrupt capitalist companies in charge of public health.

    Also, the equally corrupt TTIP agreement which would effectively give away our national sovereignty to foreign capitalist businesses.

    The in-or-out vote on EU membership is also a concern, although I don't think anyone has any real idea what would happen if we left the EU, or whether we'd be better or worse off.

    The corrupt economic system could do with a little re-jig too, so that it's not just the wealthy that profit from economic growth.

    And neckties should be made illegal.

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