What are the general content of those links, Some sort of description.
I don't want to click and see junk flinging around or something..
My thoughts are..
You do what they tell you to do.
You don't talk back. You don't resist. If they tell you to get your a** out of car/school chair w/e you do it.
Most times cops are not going to assault you if you just do what they say.
Now.. There are a**hole cops out there. But my only experience with one, he was a total.. nice guy.
Avoid cops at all costs though, don't slide into medians in snow storms.
The first one, even though the kid was being a punk bitch, the officer really shouldn't have instigated shit the way he did. 'Do it, do it!' Very unprofessional, he certainly should have handled it better, though anger gets the best of everyone sometimes.
As for the second one... A definite misuse of force IMO. Even if she was resisting, the officer had no right to just throw her around like that.
That being said...
Cops like these (Ahem, pigs) are a disgrace to the hard-working men and women who put their safety on the line every day for the good of their community and their country. People seem to think that this is how all American cops handle situations because they see this shit on Youtube and instantly assume that all American police are crooked, backward-ass pigs, and while some certainly are, the situation in many other countries is no different, or worse. Something certainly needs to be done about this without punishing/scrutinizing the police who actually serve the American people.
I hate giving my opinion on these type of videos. I think trying to argue over who is right and who is wrong in these situations is the wrong way to go about it. It doesn't help that these videos always start half way through the encounter (Everybody is getting their phones out at the start) so the most important part of the situation is missing. Once you add racial tensions, you have a powder keg that's ready to explode.
The police officer in the first video made some mistakes though. There is absolutely no reason to EVER let somebody within arms reach. Also, when the first punch was thrown, the officer should have backed up and escalated force to regain control of the situation. It's also worth pointing out, an officer is an authoritative figure, not a dominating figure as seen just before the fight.
I really don't know what to think of the second video and my opinions are mixed. While the girl was thrown around like a rag doll and it seems like excessive force, the situation seemed to be leading to it and once the girl was pulled from the desk, the force stopped immediately and the girl was arrested without further incident.
Both situations lead to a more disturbing problem I have for police officers in the United States. They are trained, and trained, and trained how to neutralize a threat and tend to be very good and efficient about it but, they are no longer properly trained how to deescalate situations before they become dangerous. This may continue to follow a vicious cycle; as these 'attacks' grow in number, people begin to resist the authority requiring more deadly responses which feed back to even less respect. I think for these kind of events to stop happening, we need to stop assuming that every time an officer makes a wrong move it's because of malicious intent and focus more on how officers can be better trained to keep the same event from happening in the future.
--In my haste, I left a lot of stuff out. I could probably talk for hours about this sort of thing.--
I've been in the position of those police officers as teacher assistants are often responsible for escorting non compliant students from the classroom. I've always been able to to talk them down. I've done this by understanding the student and the situation. There were times I've had to raise my voice and times that being very calm and quiet was the better strategy. There are, however, some students who genuinely lose it. In that kind of situation, I would exit all the other students from the classroom, isolating the crazy student. Now they have no one to show off to, impress. Their audience has been removed.
One also should be able to understand that there are high school males who are so strong and powerful, that they can be very dangerous, either to anyone in the classroom, or an arresting officer. We had a case like that in our high school, and the woman police officer had to taze him because he was a danger to her and to others.
In the second video, that police officer has already been fired. To throw a girl around while still in her desk could have killed her if he snapped her neck, something completely in the realm of possibility. Violence is the worst of all aternatives, and every other option should be tried first.
This was touched on by a couple of you but what led up to the escalation of force? You're only seeing half the story. I saw the second one on the news and it appears to me that the girl got stuck in the desk and it tipped over. Cooperate with authorities and don't rebel. It's much easier for everyone.
I watched though videos, and I was wondering why the USA has cops in the school down there anyways. to me it seem like an extreme way of dealing with kids. to my knowledge we don't have cops in are schools in Canada.