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    I have a bit of a weird question. Why do odd subjects like Gay Marriage or Medical Insurance take a part. These things have no place in government. These are private things. They're not for people who have power to decide. They're meant to run our nation. Keep things running, but instead they waste time and money worrying about small details. This lack of focus has brought us to a place where we're not in great shape. Compare us to a past form of us. 2015 US to 1939 US. We build up a fighting force capable of going toe to toe with the Nazis. It took us and several other nations to do it, but we help win WWII. We showed our truest strength during that time, what made us this way. Was it just time or was it national ego? I feel like we're going down a hole of self destruction. We may be too far gone at this point. We need to stop our selfish ways and try to come back together for another world issue. I think we maybe ready, if not close to, for world acceptance. (Not world peace mind you) Things like sexual preference, fetishes, and religion need to be put behind us, so we can work towards a better happier world.

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    The question is why do we allow our self to drowned in topics that have nothing to do with governing? On top of that why do we fight each other so much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkBabyMagicain View Post
    The question is why do we allow our self to drowned in topics that have nothing to do with governing? On top of that why do we fight each other so much?
    The problem with saying we're drowned in "topics that have nothing to do with governing" is that you've started by naming things that have a great deal to do with governing. Marriage is a legal construct governed by statutory laws and case law. Medical expenditures are 18% of US GDP and the governments of each developed country, including the United States government, are the largest entities providing medical insurance within such countries.



    Every democracy fights with itself. This is a large part of why such systems work - no one side is in power forever because of that fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fruitkitty View Post
    Every democracy fights with itself. This is a large part of why such systems work - no one side is in power forever because of that fight.
    Indeed. And the more diverse the democracy is, the more intense those fights can become. The US is a very diverse country - culturally, ethnically, religiously, regionally - unlike older countries, you don't have shared history, or shared religion, or shared ethnicity to form the basis of your sense of national sense of collective identity. Ultimately, you are an American because you "Hold these truths to be self-evident". It's the Constitution, the political ideals that underly it, and the institutions that spring from it that provide the unifying force that binds America together.

    The problem, IMHO, is that like any kind of religious or legal text, opinions on its true meaning, and the importance of different bits of it change. Not to mention that different political ideals emerge. Everyone may genuinely believe in the basic concept of the Constitution, but I'm pretty certain that the US no longer has even a simple majority consensus on how it should be interpreted, or what the role of the State should be (within broad limits).

    I'd also add that the proper role of Government is whatever the people decide that it is. So long as politicians are elected, the opinions of the living are always going to assume greater importance in their minds than a two-hundred-year-old legal text. Government, after all, is for the benefit of the living, not the long dead.



    Quote Originally Posted by Fruitkitty View Post
    Medical expenditures are 18% of US GDP.
    And rising. Apparently without end in sight, and in the process compromising the flexibility of the labour market by inhibiting free movment of labour except between jobs with good medical benefits (which are themselves a large burden on businesses). America's medical industry was getting out of control, and it had the potential to affect it's competitiveness on world markets. Is that not the concern of the state?
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