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    I just... have no clue how to figure out my sizes for anything! I could be wrong, but it seems so overwhelmingly more difficult to understand than male clothing sizing! (no, sadly, I'm not transitioning. I hope someday, but.... I don't know.... anyway, not the point of the topic. I just want some stuff to wear in the privacy of my room where no one will bother me) Dresses, skirts, pants, tops, cloth diapers, shoes/sandals, sleepers.... aaaaaahhhhhh! I wanna buy one or two things... or four or five.... but I don't know how to pick sizes for any of this stuff...

    In male sizes...
    - I normally wear large shirts, occasionally medium, but I prefer extra large to either one. Sometimes I like a silly XXL shirt that looks really, really big!
    - My feet are.... uhm.... I guess..... about 11W. It makes finding shoes and sandals difficult sometimes. Sometimes I have to compromise for something a bit too big or a bit too small.
    - I wear 34x30 pants, like jeans and stuff (reluctant to share, but necessary if I want useful advice). This size fits perfectly about 95% of the time.
    - I'm about 190 pounds. (even more reluctant to share... but also necessary.)

    I only have one XXL night gown that I didn't pick out myself. I don't want something tight, but this thing is pretty big... yet... in a way... it doesn't seem long enough. (I know some people try to squeeze into things that don't fit. I don't wanna do that) Also, in store is not an option, so I can't try anything on before buying. Online purchases only.

    Aaaand.... if anyone wants to recommend anything adorable, I'd love that. But I mostly need lots of help with sizes!

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    How big are you? Judging from your weight I'd guess you're somewhere above 5'7, hence most dresses are a bit too short. Just as you described.

    Eitherway, it would be nice if you've got something to measure your bust, waist, and hip size.

    Sizes chart:


    Regarding your height: Most sizes are made for women that are between 5'4" and 5'7" in height. If you are taller than that, Looking for Tall sizes might be recommandable. Except if you don't mind that they're a bit too short.
    My suggestion is choosing rather long dresses and/or tops, so it's not that much of an issue. If the overall style is not especially made so the bust/hips have to be exactly in place. High waisted usually gives a better torso illusion, if you want to go for this in particular.

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    nope, I'm like 6'0" or 6'1" .... and 34" I guess is... my waist?

    How will i ever find clothes if I need so many measurements? I'm not buying custom made.... o.O

    There are a few tape measures around... I dunno if those will work well enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShippoFox View Post
    34" I guess is... my waist?
    US/UK size, probably yes.



    How will i ever find clothes if I need so many measurements? I'm not buying custom made.... o.O
    It sounds more complicated as it is *giggles*

    Although you should keep in mind that's the reason why it's hard to find a dress that fits absolutely perfect. The same usually goes for a men's smoking. You can get one that fits, but usually it's never like one that's costum tailored.

    I should've mentioned just measure your size and then go along with the highest value for a size. If you got a 34 waist, whereas your hips are probably the same or just a bit wider as a male, then 16 (Large) should fit. 18 (xlarge) would work too, but it'd be quite loose too, since you have to keep in mind that you lack typical female hip/bust to waist proportion.


    But that's just what comes to mind right now. Perhaps someone has some useful tips about what you should look for regarding crossdressing.
    Last edited by daLira; 17-Aug-2015 at 20:25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShippoFox View Post
    I just... have no clue how to figure out my sizes for anything! ...
    Aaaand.... if anyone wants to recommend anything adorable, I'd love that. But I mostly need lots of help with sizes!
    My advice would be:

    1. get yourself a measuring tape (1st thing ANYONE should buy before experimenting with their wardrobe)
    2. get to know your own measurements (have no shame about this, you are the perfect size for you - also weight isn't that helpful since weight is distributed differently on people with different levels of T or E.)
    3. get to know the measurement of your guy clothes and how they fit on your body - this will help you when you read a garment spec online and you try to imagine how it will fit on you.
    4. buy garments from sites that tell you the sizing spec, not just a single size number like "4" - if you want to know a measurement don't be afraid to ask for it, lots of people do.

    How to Get Your Body Measurements For Dummies!
    gives some good directions on how to measure your body. It doesn't matter if you have a "male body" - just measure the in the same places and record your results.

    I found the wikipedia article on sizing standards handy when starting out.

    Every company has a slightly different sizing standard for it's garments, although these are often treated "more like guidelines than actual rules." It's generally possible to find size charts for most brands with a google search, e.g. The American Apparel sizing chart

    A note on shoes: getting hold of feminine shoes for larger feet is a very expensive business. However the rise of Converse style canvas-rubber shoes into fashion has been a God-send for people like us: they are cheap, youthful, unisex, come in many colours, and go with any outfit either as a compliment or a fun counterpoint. For LG style tie the long white laces with big loops and fold down the tongue over the knot.

    A note on sleeves: at 6' your arms are gonna be a major sticking point - they are for me and I'm 5'10. Long sleeves will be too short for you, so go for short sleeves or loose long sleeves you can roll up.

    Do you have an idea for a look or style you want? Something like your profile pic - pinafore / jumper-dress with pink t-shirt and a cute plastic necklace would be both cute, cheap and easy to source I imagine.

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    I didnt think specific measurements would be such a big deal... I guess I was wrong.

    That's my fursona's collar in my profile pic xD but yes, something like that would be good! Though I don't know for sure yet. Really anything that's cute and has short or long sleeves. (not counting the jumper/skirtalls, since I'd have a shirt under that) After figuring out a size... finding where to buy is the next problem... >.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShippoFox View Post
    I didnt think specific measurements would be such a big deal... I guess I was wrong.

    That's my fursona's collar in my profile pic xD but yes, something like that would be good! Though I don't know for sure yet. Really anything that's cute and has short or long sleeves. (not counting the jumper/skirtalls, since I'd have a shirt under that) After figuring out a size... finding where to buy is the next problem... >.<
    Ebay is good, at least in my experience - get things shipped to you under your initials rather than your full name to save blushes

    Specific measurements aren't a massive deal, but knowing your way around sizing will stop you buying stuff that doesn't fit.

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    I would be fine with Amazon as long as it's "shipped and sold by Amazon" ...? Doesn't it always come in a plain box with amazon all over it? Or, any merchant that promises discreet shipping. Still hard to find quite what I want. There are so many things I'd like, but the site has to have it, and I have to sort through everything else to find it.

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    One of my previous posts about sizing and terms - hope this gives direction and sense to your quest !

    CROSS DRESSING 101 - Part 2.0

    May I add one MOST IMPORTANT thing - USE a TAPE MEASURE !

    Know your own measurements:

    HEAD GEAR - (YMMV but generally men's are greater than size 7.1/4 - women's less than that point - smaller sizing leaves less crown room inside
    the hat or cap beret etc.)
    NECK/COLLAR - (exact circumference around neck - no slack)
    CHEST/BUST - (distance from underarm sleeve to opposite underarm sleeve x 2 = chest)
    SLEEVE LENGTH - (distance from shoulder seam to elbow or wrist)*
    * Cap sleeves 2-4 inches/"T" Shirts 4-6/7 inches/Polo shirts equal or a tad longer/ 3/4 sleeves not common in men's wear/
    {Ragland Sleeve long sleeve shirt with panel starting at neck band going down to just about the elbow
    usually found in sweaters} - women's sleeves are generally shorter than mens)
    EMPIRE WAIST - (roughly the elastic band at the bottom of a bra - 3-4 inches above navel)*
    * use this for short baby dresses - waist does not inhibit changing diapers )
    WAIST - (navel aka KILTED waist - standard kilts are 24 inches knee on floor to belly button)
    LOW WAIST - (where your jeans fit best {Maybe?})
    HIPS - (widest part of the gluteus maximus - men 2-4 inches below waist - women could be 10 inches unless you are KIM K or Nicki M then maybe 15+)
    RISE - (distance from bottom crotch seam to the top of the front waist band)*
    * unless wearing a gaff or compression undergear need more than 9 inches otherwise pubic zone exposure may be a problem YMMV
    ** also check that there is enough REAR RISE to prevent CRACK exposure
    INSEAM - (distance from crotch bottom seam to hem of pants/trousers/capris/bermudas/shorts/short shorts)
    CROTCH - (distance across the narrowest portion of a panty/diaper cover/swim wear - allow room for equipment containment)
    HEM LENGTH - (used for skirts and dresses - distance from waist band to bottom of skirt hem - with dresses important to determine
    whether the measurement is off the neck collar/shoulder seam/or where ever the point of measurement is taken - ask ???s to get
    it right on)
    THIGH - (circumference around the thigh in relation to the crotch bottom seam)
    ANKLE - (have big ankles tight fitting pants may pose a problem getting past this point)
    FOOTWEAR - (go to a big shoe store and request to use the Bannock measuring device - there is one each for men women and children
    use the men's and then the women's noting the sizing numbers on the scale and then to know that the approximately conversion sizing
    is I.E. for a men's 9.5 =s a women's 11. Go to the Payless shoe website and browse further for the conversion chart noting the sizing
    for the USA UK and other international locations - Note also the WIDTH of the foot women's normally are a "B" "M" or perhaps a "C"
    indicating a narrow foot {the Bannock device will give you this information} for men normally a "D" width or even wider "E" - heeled
    (high heels) will give an exaggerated measurement trend lightly here LOL !)

    There are a lot of features of how clothing fits when the material is stretchable
    with material such as lycra. How the clothing fasten with buttons; zippers;
    wrap over aprons using Velcro or straps like with kilts and even then some
    requiring a belt to hold things in place. Having a ridged waist line with a
    zipper closing limits the sizing but add an elastic panel and the sizing can very
    well be variable to fit two or three sizes larger - but in reality will it look as
    good as the original size ? With some clothing a tailor or seamstress can do
    wonders by incorporating a dart (reducing size) or a pleated panel (increasing).
    Then again the cost of such adjustments/alterations may not be
    in your best interests - estimates and fantasy ideas are generally FREE but
    the actual work and materials not !
    Nothing holding Dreams back - dream on !

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShippoFox View Post
    There are so many things I'd like, but the site has to have it, and I have to sort through everything else to find it.
    That's one of the things I dislike about shopping in a store - there are so many things that I like, how do I chose just the one or two items I can afford?

    I also find it hard to shop on-line. Even when you have a specific item in mind, the on-line stores usually sell so many different sub-styles of the same thing that I have a great deal of trouble looking through everything to find the specific item I wanted.

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