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Thread: Christianity and AB/DL (part 2)

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    Here is part one:
    https://www.adisc.org/forum/showthre...nity-and-AB-DL

    I have a big problem with this.
    And this makes me very sad and insecure. I can't live without God and without being little (even though I never had an abdl relationship and despite the fact that I had bdsm phase when was'n so good believer).

    In November 2014 I found this site and was very happy. Here I found people that finally accepted me and understood me. Before (like for 4 years) I was in BDSM, and liked it but it was not enough for me. What I needed was love and deeper connection and even though I still like bondage sometimes, and also a Femdom (female discipline)...being a little, makes me really happy and this is what I want. So, I found this site and some nice friends here but then I struggled my religion phase: I needed to fell happy on my religious side of me as well, and I felt guilt accepting abdl (and bdsm from before). So I tried to delete this in my personality. I deleted account here and throw away almost everything: my clothes, my diapers, and all my internet activity was forbidden.
    Sanch wrote here:


    "My advice, in every case, would be to do what feels right for you. If you feel that being an ABDL violates and compromises your own Christian beliefs, explore that, and see if there's any truth behind it. And if there is, find the solution which best works for you. If you feel there's no conflict between your ABDL interests and your religious faith, then I can't see that there's any issue whatsoever."
    That was also my thinking, but after all that, I still was not happy, it was worse. My dreams, my wishes...all was repressed...and I wanted so badly someone to talk to. And nobody understood if I tried. And I prayed and asked God why I fell this and why is abdl wrong...and am I wrong?
    There were some good things that happened, like I deleted all my porn collection and simplified my life at some level, but you can't run from yourself. And I tried to improve my relation with people around me, and that was good, but I needed something else...So after a lot of thinking, I decided to come back. I have lost some friends and my stuff is in garbage somewhere, but still I have me and my Teddy survived...

    So what I want to say is...I don't know is this is ok (sometimes I feel OK with abdl, and sometimes there is this guilt). What I know is, that I can't live without my little side...and hope my future girlfriend will like me like this. Also, I am religious and go to church and try to be good believer (but I still fell like hypocritical at some point...). I know that Jesus and God said to love each other and to love God. But also there is this: Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me. And this part with denying yourself makes me sad. I think I can't deny this abdl part of me, because it makes me better and happier person, and I can't be religious without abdl and happy at same time. So, I ask myself does my life has to be sad? Jesus was sad many times. Am I to selfish? Why don't I fell everyday happy with both? And now, I am afraid that maybe tomorrow I will have another regrets, and again throw away my things if I buy something. So I can't really do much, just wait to make final decision (free myself from dilemma and guilt) and ask for opinion. Also, I learned that abdl is in some way a fantasy and everyone here who finds a person who will accept this, must be ready for compromise our desires at some extent. Some of us will have to live without this or reduce this lifestyle due to other reasons. So what is your opinion? Are you also ready for compromises with your little side?

    PS.
    Forgot to say, I am Christian Catholic and member of Franciscan youth.

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    The guilt you feel is because of beliefs imposed upon you by others. People have wondered about the nature of god since the beginning of the human race and, as far as I know, no one has yet come up with a definitive answer. You are doomed to figure this out for yourself. We all are.

    As for practical matters, good relationships are difficult as it is, and our little quirk makes them even more difficult. Approach it as another challenge in life. Don't give in to despair.

    Oh... and try not to purge. This just leads to binge/purge cycles and life has enough ups and downs that you don't need to add this little rollercoaster if you can avoid it. If it is possible to overcome ABDL desires it will happen without purging. I don't see it as some kind of addiction like alcoholism.

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    Being a little is not wrong in any way. Some people may condemn it because they think it is sexual, but usually it is not. If it is for you, then my experience is that the more I am little, the less stimulating it is sexually so I have no guilt about it. Denying yourself may come into play someday, but do not deny yourself just because of that verse. If you feel convicted to pay tithe and spend less on little items, that is properly denying yourself. Or if you see a hungry person and buy them a meal out of your little budget. If you did not already have that budget, then maybe you would not be able to help this person. We deny ourselves for the good of others, not just because it is wrong to care for ourselves. God wants you to care for yourself as much as your neighbor or he wouldn't have said love your neighbor as yourself.

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    Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me. And this part with denying yourself makes me sad. I think I can't deny this abdl part of me, because it makes me better and happier person, and I can't be religious without abdl and happy at same time. So, I ask myself does my life has to be sad? Jesus was sad many times. Am I to selfish? Why don't I fell everyday happy with both? .
    (apparently I have trouble quoting)

    So, I have to ask this, when Jesus says to deny yourself, take up your cross and follow him. Is he asking you to deny everything that is good or fun? or is he asking you to be ready to die for him? Because we already have the idea that Christianity is a "no fun allowed" religion. And when I think about the reality for the apostles, who understood that to take up your cross meant to drag to where you going to be suffocated on it, and that is a far cry from denying yourself something (what ever it is) just, well, because.

    So did Jesus die because I'm supposed to become a monk with no earthly stuff? or did He die because I'm supposed to help guide others to him?
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    when I use to go to church I was taught that we are all children of the lord, so I can only image that we are the babies and little ones.
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    Can I ask a sincere question?

    Why do you have to choose either being little or loving God?

    Do you believe that being little is a sin? If so, why? I haven't read the other thread, but I know a lot of fellow littles, ABDL's, and so forth who are Christians.

    I don't think the two are incompatible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattiKins View Post
    Can I ask a sincere question?

    Why do you have to choose either being little or loving God?

    Do you believe that being little is a sin? If so, why? I haven't read the other thread, but I know a lot of fellow littles, ABDL's, and so forth who are Christians.

    I don't think the two are incompatible.
    And that's why you rock If we were created in love...by a loving creator, then he must love us just the way we are. some of us were just always meant to be adorable

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    Quote Originally Posted by tillylenn View Post
    I know that Jesus and God said to love each other and to love God. But also there is this: Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me. And this part with denying yourself makes me sad.
    Most believers don't qualify as disciples, then. Most clergy wouldn't. But let me tell you this- discipline, which is what a disciple practices- is not denial.

    Let's look at the Biblical view on alcohol, Paul says that drunkards will not inherit the Kingdom of God, right? Drunkards. Not "people who have a glass of wine with dinner or a beer after work". Not even "people who drink socially or who occasionally drink too much". A drunkard is one with no self-control. In Paul's time it was considered a moral failing to be addicted to alcohol, and yet wine plays a symbolic role in Christianity as the Blood of Christ. Even if you're not Catholic. The key here is discipline, which is self-control. Yes- have a drink. Indulge once in a while. Don't let it consume your life, because, like most other worldly pleasures, they will end up consuming you if you don't practice discipline.

    Denial of something is being controlled by that which you deny, just in reverse. The lack of doing something becomes consuming. You still struggle with the desire but torture yourself by denying it. This leads to the inevitable binge and purge cycle that so many of us have gone through. It's not healthy.



    So, I ask myself does my life has to be sad? Jesus was sad many times. Am I to selfish?
    Is your ABDL interfering with other aspects of your life? Does it prevent you from working or going to school? Does it stop you from helping the sick and the needy? Does it prevent you from studying the Bible and following the teachings of Christ? I don't think it does, really.



    Also, I learned that abdl is in some way a fantasy and everyone here who finds a person who will accept this, must be ready for compromise our desires at some extent. Some of us will have to live without this or reduce this lifestyle due to other reasons. So what is your opinion? Are you also ready for compromises with your little side?
    I'm 42. I spent much of my life prior to a couple years ago compromising, and I said, enough. I am not going to go overboard with it, but I am married and my husband doesn't mind it. He even indulges me sometimes. The question for you is, how do you define 'compromise'? To me, a compromise is both people giving in a little to reach a happy medium, and you sound like it's all or nothing here. In the case of your faith, finding a happy medium is not that difficult, IMO- just don't let your little activities impede your life.



    PS.
    Forgot to say, I am Christian Catholic and member of Franciscan youth.
    I had a good friend who since passed on who was a Franciscan monk. He was gay, loved his wine and classical music, and... one day we had a moment.

    See, he was my husband's partner before we married, and when they split amicably, they remained good friends. This monk was very protective over his ex-partner and did not like me at first, and I had to work hard to gain his trust. Prior to his becoming a monk he was involved in the BDSM scene and was a bit of a leather daddy. He knew I was a little before I even knew how to say it.

    My last in-person hang with him occurred the day before he moved to Texas to be near his family. There were four of us there- me, my husband, the monk, and his friend/partner (I am not sure how intimate they were or if my monk had taken a vow of celibacy once he became a monk). My husband and the partner were talking, but I spent my time with my monk friend, cuddling. He cuddled me like the little I was. He knew and slipped into nurturing daddy mode. It wasn't sexual, it was beautiful and loving.

    I wish he were still alive, but that was an amazing 30 minutes or so of pure, unadulterated love. There can be nothing at all wrong or sinful about that.

    I hope you find balance.

    Be well.

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    I will tell you I've been where you are right now and I don't know if this ever really stops. But continue to hold onto your faith. That is by far the most important thing you have.

    That being said the bible never explicitly talks about this topic or regression/abdl. But just remember that we are forgiven for all the sins we have known and unknown. I don't know if this is a sin, but it is still forgiven.

    On a side note I purged once too. I met a girl that I thought was the one and she rejected me for my abdl side. That was devastating. Looking back at it I carried a lot of self hate. So I purged but couldn't stop thinking about diapers. I may never be able to. But don't purge who you are. Most studies do show that this is unhealthy behavior.

    I will be praying for you and your faith brother. But, know that Jesus does indeed love you and wants to be there for you. I would ask have you talked to Jesus directly about this thing. That might be something to try. Just tell him about it as you would a friend. He does want to hear about everything.

    God's peace be with you brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozbub View Post
    And that's why you rock If we were created in love...by a loving creator, then he must love us just the way we are. some of us were just always meant to be adorable
    amen!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamMeister7 View Post
    I will tell you I've been where you are right now and I don't know if this ever really stops. But continue to hold onto your faith. That is by far the most important thing you have.

    That being said the bible never explicitly talks about this topic or regression/abdl. But just remember that we are forgiven for all the sins we have known and unknown. I don't know if this is a sin, but it is still forgiven.

    On a side note I purged once too. I met a girl that I thought was the one and she rejected me for my abdl side. That was devastating. Looking back at it I carried a lot of self hate. So I purged but couldn't stop thinking about diapers. I may never be able to. But don't purge who you are. Most studies do show that this is unhealthy behavior.

    I will be praying for you and your faith brother. But, know that Jesus does indeed love you and wants to be there for you. I would ask have you talked to Jesus directly about this thing. That might be something to try. Just tell him about it as you would a friend. He does want to hear about everything.

    God's peace be with you brother
    I 100 percent aggeree

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