# Thread: How Many Of Us Are There?

1. ## How Many Of Us Are There?

I heard somewhere that AB/DLs are so rare that our numbers may be in the tens of thousands. Is this plausible? I mean, we can't be THAT rare, right? Does anyone have any links to any articles that attempt to estimate our numbers?

2. The question came up a few weeks back. I posted a link to the diaperalliancefoundation.org website, which seems to be connected to ABKingdom (both sites seem to be down right now). Said website features a small statistical experiment which suggests that about 0,05%, or 1 in every 2000 of the french population might be related to ABDL. Question remains how valid the data is, but using member statistics of websites to give a general outlook isn't that bad of an idea, since most of the community activity happens online. What they did was simply relating the number of people registered to ABKingdom (and others) to the number of people in France with access to the internet (according to official statistics). There are however many pitfalls to think of which makes it difficult to assess whether the number is reasonable or not. I argued, that at least it is some kind of 'minimum' but that doesn't work out (stupid presupposition on my side). So it's just that, a number.

3. The truth is, this is no accurate statistic on how many AB/DL's there are in current circulation. But what I have seen thus far, is that there are more DL's than AB's, and even rarer are BF's.

And I don't think it's so much of a question as to "how many of us there are", but more of a question of "how many of us haven't been discovered yet".

4. As I previously noted, it also depends on how you do the counting. There are a lot of people who wear diapers. So many that every drugstore carries incontinence products all around the world, in adult sizes. We are certainly talking in the tens of millions or more.

Within that number, how many people derive pleasure from it? And within that number, how many chose to wear due to a mental, rather than physical, need? The Internet community estimate is one way to get at it, but it's very difficult to estimate, since the ABDL population may have other behavioral characteristics (e.g. how likely they are to join an Internet community) that differ from the general population.

5. i think that i see four of those ABDL folks....
(points finger at the page above)

6. Originally Posted by ArchieRoni
As I previously noted, it also depends on how you do the counting. There are a lot of people who wear diapers. So many that every drugstore carries incontinence products all around the world, in adult sizes. We are certainly talking in the tens of millions or more.
Interesting point. I never really looked at that angle. It's still just a guess as to how many wear for pleasure but the numbers seem a little more encouraging when looked at that way. Add to that the unknown number of baby diapers and youth pants that are bought for adult use and I may have to revamp my guestimate as to how many ABDLs there are.

7. Fetlife has thousands of users on there. ABDLC has some 8.6k members. ADISC has over 30k registered users. So I'd say there is quite a lot, and certainly plenty more that have yet to understand and come out into the open with their interest.

8. Originally Posted by Astatine
The question came up a few weeks back. I posted a link to the diaperalliancefoundation.org website, which seems to be connected to ABKingdom (both sites seem to be down right now). Said website features a small statistical experiment which suggests that about 0,05%, or 1 in every 2000 of the french population might be related to ABDL. Question remains how valid the data is, but using member statistics of websites to give a general outlook isn't that bad of an idea, since most of the community activity happens online. What they did was simply relating the number of people registered to ABKingdom (and others) to the number of people in France with access to the internet (according to official statistics). There are however many pitfalls to think of which makes it difficult to assess whether the number is reasonable or not. I argued, that at least it is some kind of 'minimum' but that doesn't work out (stupid presupposition on my side). So it's just that, a number.
A few years ago I did some napkin math to guesstimate our numbers. My process was as follows. The Kinsey Report found that bestiality is a practice engaged in by X% of people and this is still generally considered an accurate figure- one of Kinsey's talents was getting people to open up about weird shit. I Googled words and phrases relevant to bestiality porn and tabulated how many hits I got on Google. I then repeated the process with words and phrases related to ABDL and other pee/poop/ageplay fetish practices, and basically cross-multiplied to solve for our frequency. Then I added an order of magnitude to make the estimate low (ie- instead of saying there are "about this many" it became "at least this many"). In the end, I found that there our frequency is at least in the range of 1 in 500 to 1 in 5,000.

Some caveats. This is only accurate for the developed world; obviously, there will be fewer diaper fetishists where children aren't raised with diapers. It also assumes a linear relationship between population size and google hits, which there probably isn't but that's the best I have to go on. Furthermore, this number is for a very inclusive definition of ABDL. People who like sexual poop play were included. People into omorashi were included. And so on. Basically, it was easier to include tangentially related groups than to exclude them and try to correct for contamination. It also avoided the issue of defining who is and isn't ABDL by saying that everyone who might somehow be associated with us is also one of us.

9. Originally Posted by LazyDreamer
I heard somewhere that AB/DLs are so rare that our numbers may be in the tens of thousands. Is this plausible? I mean, we can't be THAT rare, right? Does anyone have any links to any articles that attempt to estimate our numbers?
Based upon numbers that I have studied from individuals like Bittergrey and other's I think it is safe to assume that there are millions of AB/DL's living on the planet right now. You have to remember even a tiny percentage of the worlds population let's say .05% still represents a large number of individuals. There are over 7 billion of us living on this planet right now and when you do the math that tiny .05% represents 3,500,000 people which is still a big number of people. That being said most estimates that I have seen actually say that .5% of the worlds population not .05% happens to be AB/DL. which represents a population of 35,000,000. Now I suspect that .5% is probably not accurate because it's almost impossible to be accurate with this but I think it's safe to say that there are millions of us living on this planet alone and that is quite comforting to know just how not alone we really are.

Now for someone to say that AB/DL's number only in the tens of thousands is so inaccurate as to defy reason. You see there are over 3,000 of us registered here on ADISC and I cannot imagine a 3rd of the entire worlds AB/DL population being registered here on ADISC actually. We might be a big AB/DL site but we are not that big at least not yet anyways. so while the numbers are probably inaccurate I can assure you that there's more then likely a lot more AB/DL's then most people realize.

10. Originally Posted by accepted
Based upon numbers that I have studied from individuals like Bittergrey and other's I think it is safe to assume that there are millions of AB/DL's living on the planet right now. You have to remember even a tiny percentage of the worlds population let's say .05% still represents a large number of individuals. There are over 7 billion of us living on this planet right now and when you do the math that tiny .05% represents 3,500,000 people which is still a big number of people.
I think you're wrong to base this number on the gross number of people in the world. A significant number (more than half) of the population lives in areas where diapers are non-existent.

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