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    I was just thinking this the other day after typing in 'Abena M4' into google and the the small images pane that shows up, out of 5 pics 3 were *B/DL related. Also on my normal tumblr (not affiliated with anything *B/DL) I do see *B pictures somewhat often. It got me wondering that using by using generic search terms and the publicity of social media; do more people know about our world and is it one step closer to a kind of public acceptance?

    Fetishes such as bondage, S&M ect are more accepted (is that the right word for it?) Also homosexuality is much more accepted now than it was in the 80s. What I mean is that people have only know about *B/DLs for about 10 years (since internet became popular) But homophobia was rife in the 80s, then fast forward 20 or so years it is generally accepted (with the exception of some time-warp states) So by exposure of about 2 decades will we be accepted by society in the end and not branded paedos?

    I think give it another decade and we won't be as frowned upon as much as we are now, just by people being exposed to use occasionally on the interwb.

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    Honestly, I doubt it. Although, whatever negative feelings other people have about this doesn't concern me because this is something that doesn't need to concern society in the first place.

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    ABs are all over Tumblr, but that doesn't mean the general public knows a lot about us. I saw Mile Sirus on a news story covered by The Today Show, and it looked like she was wearing a diaper, again. They even called it a onsie. There is a subtle movement, but it's just that, subtle and small. Still, it's small progress.

    That said, I don't think the vanilla public will ever accept us. We come across as creepy, because we use our diapers for their intended purpose, and that's going to creep out the muggels.

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    oddly enough on my roleplaying forum kinks have come up a lot in the last few days. none even thought being AB was weird. One, (see link below to another topic.) seemed the opposite despite having no ABness themselves. IDK... I am beginning to understand how common kinks are. Perhaps as I have been told elsewhere, everyone has some kind of kink. Yet to see anyone there think bad of me for it.

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    Having been on every possible site related to ABDL or kinks in general, and also being completely open about my ABDL side, i can say that there are PLENTY of us everywhere, and that the data gathered is too scattered to make any determination of whether or not we are more accepted or less accepted or will be either or in the future. Though from my personal experience - I've told all my friends (this equals a total of maybe 30 people) some of which i told personally or others who found out (because no one in my town has the ability to keep a secret) and none of them have responded negatively. I think you have to approach it a certain way. If you approach it embarrassingly or awkwardly, its going to come off as creepy. Every time I came out or was outed by someone, i acted as if it was nothing serious and like i was adorable for doing it, and the others positive attitudes followed.

    Often times you will see that ABDL is very common but some people don't call it that, in fact there is a fairly large portion of the BDSM community that incorporates diapers and ageplay, but they wouldn't label themselves ABDLs. People who engage in the Daddy dom/babygirl BDSM roles often use diapers and baby items but they dont directly label themselves littles or ABDL's despite the babygirls being treated like children. Then there is also the sexual and non sexual spectrum of things. But if you ask me, i think that sexually; ABDL is being more recognized, but emotionally its not. Meaning that things might be more difficult for Littles and less difficult for ABDLS. But rest assured that BDSM is no more accepted than ABDL, it just seems that way because more people are either into BDSM than they are into ABDL, or rather they are just more open about it and less worried about the public opinion; hence making it seem like there are more BDSM people than there are ABDL people, but that doesn't make it more accepted by society. Out of all my friends, only one of them is into BDSM, the others are hardcore vanilla.

    Also, it bears mentioning that i've never been called or seen as a pedophile, its really all about how you explain yourself. If done correctly, the false connection between ABDL and Pedophilia becomes non-existent. No one who i've ever told about this has ever said "oh so... do you like babies?". Honestly, i have to admit that whoever links ABDL with Pedophilia is a simple minded person with a low IQ because there is absolutely no evidence to support that claim. It would be like labeling Fireplay or Ropeplay as Suicidal Tendencies. Its ridiculous.

    Side Note: surprisingly enough, one of the main questions i would always get asked is if I "use" my diapers, and after I pretty much explain how I only wet them, I've actually been asked/told by many of my friends, "are you wet now? You can wet it if you need to, its ok " lol strange yet endearing.

    So, conclusively, its all about surrounding yourself with people who are either open minded or preserve some kind of common sense and logic, because the truth of the matter is that despite all the media coverage and internet access, a LOT of people dont even know ABDL or Littles or Infanitlism even EXISTS! This ALSO includes psychological and medical health professionals! Hell, even the internet and microsoft word dont consider Infantilism a word! Try typing it out xD it comes out underlined with red. Kinks will always be kinks, its all about how you look at it and how you educate others. By that notion, you might be awakening other peoepl's inner children or you might be opening other people's eyes to new things they never knew they were into, and might have never known had it not been for your openness.

    Another truth that should also be considered and embraced is that absolutely no one in the world is normal, and the majority of people you think might be vanilla, really arent. People are afraid to be themselves because of the media and society, and we as humans have a tendency of hiding our true nature out of fear of being judged by people who are yet, ALSO, afraid to be themselves. Its a catch-22 of ridiculous proportions and results in nothing but hidden personalities and justified lies. So the next time you feel like the world might never accept us, consider that there is no "us" because what we do is no stranger than the things 80% of the people wish they had the BALLS to admit to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrinklyEmilyLG View Post
    Having been on every possible site related to ABDL or kinks in general, and also being completely open about my ABDL side, i can say that there are PLENTY of us everywhere, and that the data gathered is too scattered to make any determination of whether or not we are more accepted or less accepted or will be either or in the future. Though from my personal experience - I've told all my friends (this equals a total of maybe 30 people) some of which i told personally or others who found out (because no one in my town has the ability to keep a secret) and none of them have responded negatively. I think you have to approach it a certain way. If you approach it embarrassingly or awkwardly, its going to come off as creepy. Every time I came out or was outed by someone, i acted as if it was nothing serious and like i was adorable for doing it, and the others positive attitudes followed.

    Often times you will see that ABDL is very common but some people don't call it that, in fact there is a fairly large portion of the BDSM community that incorporates diapers and ageplay, but they wouldn't label themselves ABDLs. People who engage in the Daddy dom/babygirl BDSM roles often use diapers and baby items but they dont directly label themselves littles or ABDL's despite the babygirls being treated like children. Then there is also the sexual and non sexual spectrum of things. But if you ask me, i think that sexually; ABDL is being more recognized, but emotionally its not. Meaning that things might be more difficult for Littles and less difficult for ABDLS. But rest assured that BDSM is no more accepted than ABDL, it just seems that way because more people are either into BDSM than they are into ABDL, or rather they are just more open about it and less worried about the public opinion; hence making it seem like there are more BDSM people than there are ABDL people, but that doesn't make it more accepted by society. Out of all my friends, only one of them is into BDSM, the others are hardcore vanilla.

    Also, it bears mentioning that i've never been called or seen as a pedophile, its really all about how you explain yourself. If done correctly, the false connection between ABDL and Pedophilia becomes non-existent. No one who i've ever told about this has ever said "oh so... do you like babies?". Honestly, i have to admit that whoever links ABDL with Pedophilia is a simple minded person with a low IQ because there is absolutely no evidence to support that claim. It would be like labeling Fireplay or Ropeplay as Suicidal Tendencies. Its ridiculous.

    Side Note: surprisingly enough, one of the main questions i would always get asked is if I "use" my diapers, and after I pretty much explain how I only wet them, I've actually been asked/told by many of my friends, "are you wet now? You can wet it if you need to, its ok " lol strange yet endearing.

    So, conclusively, its all about surrounding yourself with people who are either open minded or preserve some kind of common sense and logic, because the truth of the matter is that despite all the media coverage and internet access, a LOT of people dont even know ABDL or Littles or Infanitlism even EXISTS! This ALSO includes psychological and medical health professionals! Hell, even the internet and microsoft word dont consider Infantilism a word! Try typing it out xD it comes out underlined with red. Kinks will always be kinks, its all about how you look at it and how you educate others. By that notion, you might be awakening other peoepl's inner children or you might be opening other people's eyes to new things they never knew they were into, and might have never known had it not been for your openness.

    Another truth that should also be considered and embraced is that absolutely no one in the world is normal, and the majority of people you think might be vanilla, really arent. People are afraid to be themselves because of the media and society, and we as humans have a tendency of hiding our true nature out of fear of being judged by people who are yet, ALSO, afraid to be themselves. Its a catch-22 of ridiculous proportions and results in nothing but hidden personalities and justified lies. So the next time you feel like the world might never accept us, consider that there is no "us" because what we do is no stranger than the things 80% of the people wish they had the BALLS to admit to.
    Thank you for this. I feel the same way. I agree with everything you've said here.

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    Once people get over the misconceptions and general fear of diapers, I can see the community becoming more prominent... when mentioning the adult baby thing to random people in an experiment a couple years back, the most common response was the assumption of pedophilia and the crime drama that featured an adult baby's "nursery". I imagine it is more widely accepted in places other than the USA, but that is more assumption than not on my part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrinklyEmilyLG View Post
    But if you ask me, i think that sexually; ABDL is being more recognized, but emotionally its not. Meaning that things might be more difficult for Littles and less difficult for ABDLS.
    I slightly disagree here, if only for the 15 Stone documentary. In it they seemed to make as much as a divide as they could between the sexual and non-sexual roles of ABDL, which I appreciated but disagreed with. In it they show Kat as an LG, being cute and cuddly and an adult as well, showing her regressed side as an emotional comfort. Absent from the documentary was any mention of the fact that Kat is a paid porn actress and model-clearly ABDL is anything but non sexual for her.

    And I see the same thing with other ABDLs in the limelight, such as Stanley and Brett-they both go out of their way to explain that its an emotional thing. Right, just like doin it doggy style is an emotional thing.

    I cant help but think this is because people are able to see someone regressing to a child like state and understand the emotional release they may get from it; as its often stated, who wouldn't want to be a kid again? Its this innocence and child like status that bothers me. Sure, it may act as a bridge to the vanilla world who are more understanding of mental disorders and less of sexual ones. But it paints us into a corner of being non sexual and non functional-no way could a 247 lifestyle AB ever function the same way a "vanilla" adult does-no one will take you seriously at the bank while your applying for a loan if your in footed pajamas and diapers. This is the opposite of what most ABs seem to be like, who are well adjusted, responsible adults. (just going on anecdotal evidence from surfing the web)


    I agree with you Emily, we need to start taking our balls out of our diaper bags and using them. Its ridiculous to tiptoe the line between what we want and what we think the world wants from us-like you said, most people are waaaaay freakier then theyd like to admit, and I have a feeling those crying the loudest for modesty have the least modest minds. I agree with the OP as well-20 more years and people will be much less publicly judgmental. Privately, and between close friends/loved ones, I think acceptance is much higher than we realize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverSmall View Post
    Somebody will have to stick their neck out first and come out.
    Allow me to speak for the overwhelming majority...

    NOT ME! I have a career and a reputation to protect.

    My GF was open and accepting at first - but not so much lately. My mother wanted to send me to therapy until she read some of the stuff on here (thanks, guys)

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