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    Seeing as we only have Bittergrey and ADISC... Bittergrey being ancient and ADISC being a forum... It seems obvious that we need and actual informational website. Obviously my website is only a sub-weebly not an actual domain, but I am working on trying to get some proper information out there. Right now when one types ABDL into google, diaper porn is mostly what show up... Whether or not we want it, the general public is becoming aware of ABDL. We need to stand up and represent ourselves accurately so that people don't get the wrong idea. Anyway here is a link:

    ABout ABDL - Home

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    I like the page, minus a couple of miniscule grammatical errors. I have a feeling this will turn into a "we don't need to be represented in any capacity to the general public" kind of thread, and honestly, that's the camp I'm in.

    If you want to create this page and spread some stuff about what being AB/DL truly means (to you), more power to you, it's just not my cup of tea.

    -Ron

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    Well, the OP is right, we do need a less media-biased representation of ourselves (Stanley's TV show tried and failed to that affect) as the community could be harassed publicly, meaning no one would 'come out' to spouses, as doing so would automatically equate to being a pedophile. Do we want a fair representation, or what we have now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronbeast View Post
    I like the page, minus a couple of miniscule grammatical errors. I have a feeling this will turn into a "we don't need to be represented in any capacity to the general public" kind of thread, and honestly, that's the camp I'm in.

    If you want to create this page and spread some stuff about what being AB/DL truly means (to you), more power to you, it's just not my cup of tea.

    -Ron
    I actually have no issues with this site existing, heck, even SUPPORT its existence as a tool for explaining to partners, friends and family who you tell or who happen to find out. That's very different from announcing and trying to justify it to the average person on the street. Bittergrey's site was/is a useful place to point partners or parents of ABDL people, and it certainly didn't try to champion the cause of global ABDL acceptance. The people who will be googling 'ABDL' are people who are curious about it already: either they've been exposed to it via the media or they've someone in their lives who is ABDL. Again, this is not quite the same as trying to push ABDL acceptance on the world.

    However I do agree that the focus should not be on attempting to 'educate' every person out there, but more on providing a quick source of info for people who need it for one reason or another.

    To the OP: It looks okay (being just one page for now), but I'd suggest writing in 3rd person instead, it will sound more professional. Like, instead of 'we', put 'ABDLs' or 'they'. Also:


    •First of all, diapers are only associated with children according to our society's flawed viewpoints. In truth almost as many adult diapers are worn as baby diapers. Actually sales of adult diapers in Japan have topped those intended for children as of 2012. As an adult who has to wear ADULT DIAPERS for a medical reason I find it extremely insulting for someone to associate diapers with children. Being incontinent and wearing diapers does not make me any less of a man!
    • Diapers are not a baby thing. They are worn by people with issues getting to the bathroom on time. Nothing more nothing less.
    The issue with this is that ABDLs /are/ associating diapers with being a baby. That's sort of the whole point for a lot of us. You can't really say to a reasonable person 'well it has nothing to do with babies, because adults wear diapers too!' when your use of diapers is designed to imply you ARE a baby.

    I would remove this, and instead focus on the fact that ABDLs are into pretending /they/ are babies...not actual babies.


    •In truth we are victims of predation ourselves sometimes. Teen babies and women into ABDL are frequently harassed and stalked online by sexual predators.
    This is problematic for a couple of reasons:
    • The idea that sexual predators targeting women is a thing unique to ABDLs is ludicrous, and I tell you that as a woman and an ABDL. It's ridiculously common: most vanilla women I know have a story or two about narrow escapes (or unfortunate not-escapes ) from sexual predators.
    • Reread what you just wrote. While you're touting the simple, innocent joys and lack of predators in the community...you're telling people this is a place where women and children are 'frequently harrassed and stalked online by sexual predators'. This very much implies the opposite of what you are trying to say, I think: that is, it implies that the community is FULL of sexual predators and creepers, even pedophiles.
    • Mentioning teen babies and their involvement in the community is definitely going to make a lot of people say 'what': it seems to be implied that <18s are welcomed into the community with open arms, which (as we all know ) is not the case.


    Good luck!

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    If you want help with your website drop me pm I do freelance work for business / personal websites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharliePup View Post
    The issue with this is that ABDLs /are/ associating diapers with being a baby. That's sort of the whole point for a lot of us. You can't really say to a reasonable person 'well it has nothing to do with babies, because adults wear diapers too!' when your use of diapers is designed to imply you ARE a baby.

    I would remove this, and instead focus on the fact that ABDLs are into pretending /they/ are babies...not actual babies.

    This is problematic for a couple of reasons:
    • The idea that sexual predators targeting women is a thing unique to ABDLs is ludicrous, and I tell you that as a woman and an ABDL. It's ridiculously common: most vanilla women I know have a story or two about narrow escapes (or unfortunate not-escapes ) from sexual predators.
    • Reread what you just wrote. While you're touting the simple, innocent joys and lack of predators in the community...you're telling people this is a place where women and children are 'frequently harrassed and stalked online by sexual predators'. This very much implies the opposite of what you are trying to say, I think: that is, it implies that the community is FULL of sexual predators and creepers, even pedophiles.
    • Mentioning teen babies and their involvement in the community is definitely going to make a lot of people say 'what': it seems to be implied that <18s are welcomed into the community with open arms, which (as we all know ) is not the case.


    Good luck!
    I removed the women and teens being preyed on part. I edited and added the part about wanting to be children, but I did leave the part about diapers not really being babyish. I am sure a few people who are strictly DL will back me up here in saying wanting to wear diapers can be a result of sexuality not a desire to be infantile. Not all dls want to regress, some just think diapers are really sexy...

    As far as the teens thing goes... it is not a matter of them being welcome... it is a matter that they exist. Just because we don't allow them here does not mean they just poofed into non-existence. Teenbabies still exist and face the same exact hardships we did when we were that age.


    Also added another couple sections about body image and coming out.

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    Heh, I like the use of graphics. Quite whimsical.

    To further add to the great points Charliepup made:

    >Remove references to yourself and personal pronouns. You're making an information resource, not a biography.
    >Watersports is a seperate fetish and seems unnecessary.
    >Some important sections are very clunky sounding, and could be potentially confusing.



    People sometimes assume that having a fetish for an infantile object equates to liking children.
    •The above statement couldn't be farther from the truth... Adult babies want to be children, not to attack them. If Adult babies were to prey on children they would be in effect preying on themselves!
    This seems very awkward saying out loud, and uses an unnecessary analogy.

    Write more like a sociologist, if you can. This reads more like a first draft, I would do a rewrite at some point as there's a lot more work to do on it.

    I'm not going to get into the issues surrounding teens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno View Post
    Heh, I like the use of graphics. Quite whimsical.

    To further add to the great points Charliepup made:

    >Remove references to yourself and personal pronouns. You're making an information resource, not a biography.
    >Watersports is a seperate fetish and seems unnecessary.
    >Some important sections are very clunky sounding, and could be potentially confusing.



    This seems very awkward saying out loud, and uses an unnecessary analogy.

    Write more like a sociologist, if you can. This reads more like a first draft, I would do a rewrite at some point as there's a lot more work to do on it.

    I'm not going to get into the issues surrounding teens.
    This is a first draft. Actually this was an oral presentation converted to text. I totally plan on axing the personal stuff. I do plan on however adding a section about myself so i might be an example of how some of the abdl vocabulary applies and also to add my personal experiences/viewpoints. No one has really ever gotten to say what being an abdl is like without getting rudely interupted by some talk show host.

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    equates to inappropriately liking children.


    Being incontinent and wearing diapers does not make me one any less of a man responsible-adult!


    ABDL v Femininity:

    •Even though women are “aloud”"allowed" to be cute and sweet according to society, there are still conflicts to between being ABDL and a woman...."


    Women typically wear tighter clothing than men and bulges are not usually tolerated. Big huge thick diapers are literally the exact opposite of women’s panties.
    Constructively speaking...there's a fair bit more...
    I'm not at the right place and time to discuss flow, and other issues right now...but some has been covered above...

    I would say from personal experience...be clear to yourself, what it is you hope to accomplish...then, be clear to the general reader, what your point is.

    Harsh feed-back, and critically-constructive responses...are almost certain. That in it's-self shouldn't dissuade you, but don't write-it-off as simply those 'nay-Sayers'...or haters gonna be haters'...it probably most likely means, that your message came out wrong...or something to that effect.

    Sincerely-Good luck,
    -Marka

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    This is a great start! Well done. I look forward to seeing the evolution of it.

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