Indoctrination of Children
This is something I have thought about a few times before and a few recent threads on adisc and behaviour of posters on various threads have made me question how much of an effect parents do have on a persons adults personality of world views and whether or not this is an issue.
It seems to be a delicate and fine balance between the rights of a parents and that of a child, its possible for these rights to cross purposes at times too often i think without steps being taken to interfere. Mostly because people are unsure as to whether is it right to interfere or not ? Often people don't consider it ,or at least thats how the first world legislates. So unless there is clear physical or mental child abuse, the latter being hard to identify. We as outsiders don't step in either on a personal or societal level.
However is this a good thing or beneficial for us as a society ? To a degree I admit I feel strongly about this due my personal stance morals and ethics, but while I state that i feel strongly but very conflicted. I am unsure of how to gauge these things in an even close to objective manner due to the lack of ability to gather even semi unbiased data.
I suppose a good thing to start with is Abdlism and how if we become parents how should we balance that with having children. Currently calico has a thread going on it http://www.adisc.org/forum/mature-to...parenting.html . Also on another site I saw a poll on it most people like on adisc were against it practising it around children but there was a minority that did not have an issue. For example quote from discussion on another site.
“I am a Daddy in both the AB/DL scene and in Real life. 4 kids all Pre-baby furs. The kids being exposed to the Love and caring nature of the AB/DL world and Furry world has made them more open and more caring individuals.”
My basic point is regardless of how right or wrong on a personal or societal level that may be, as long as he avoids technically breaking child abuse laws, well theres no legal right to stop such a person. Legal points aside while I agree we are able to criticize and logically attack his position there is little else we can do, though his kids might end up being perfectly happy or whatever. What right does he have to indoctrinate and in a way casually force a dependency of a fetish/lifestyle community on another being?
Moving on to less clear issues and more controversial ones such as politics and religion. This is something I have and am becoming more aware as I have more experiences in these types of discussions. I will start with politics, people seem on and off of adisc I have especially seen this from americans, possibly just because they are more common and passionate about their politics all over the internet. But there seems to be such an indoctrination there often from a very young age partially due to media but more often due to family and directly parents imparting their views and ideas directly onto their children. Due to how the brain is formed we accept what parental authority figures in our life say at a young age its a survival trait that can be linked to current evolutionary models.
But I have notice its led to a direct rejection of other views and legitimate information sources, based on their views being so strongly indoctrinated. Theres so much complaints about the political stances of various news outlets often leading to people using unreliable sources aka Alex Jones or the Huffington Post both of which have been proven to be wrong on occasions.
Though at the same time you should immediately reject something like those sources unless you have a good verifiable reason not to.
The real point is though how much of a problem is the indoctrinated black and white view causing in many countries, some great example being america aka people wanting to secede or rise up against the govt. To when and why did we reach this level of silliness I feel its directly harmful to the progression of society. Yet its something thats considered non issue by many people and fine or a non issue by societal as a whole at least to the level it tolerates it or the way you will at times see people bash on about parents rights.
My next real concern and other type of indoctrination i most commonly notice is that of religious origin(note I am not trying to start a debate of the existence of god guys so just staph if you are going to even try). It seems people are being pushed into this quite clearly and quite dramatically with some faiths at a very young age too often negative affect later in life.
What I really mean is by pushing these things on children all that is really being done is making beliefs purely based on geographical birth location which is silly and often harmful. A child born at least in any first world nation should at a reasonable age,which I would postulate as to when they start asking about it, be gradually supplied with information that there are different options available and so many different beliefs and what the evidence is behind and pertaining to those beliefs. It would be easy to present the basic information and then let a person come to make the own decision and study what beliefs they choose to rather than pushing a person set of them down a child's throat. Even myself as an atheist will teach a child if I had one to choose for itself, on something that will be such a core part of their life i don't see how i have a right to warp their mind to any set of opinions even my own.
It also results in some serious horrible actions like the fundamentalism we see today, the fact that circumcision is considered to be a choice of the parents. It leads to closed minds and people not properly trained to think. Its creating a toxic society to grow up in at least I feel so and its being done for no real reason other than its what their parents did to them.
While i might present these views and parents as being evil I don't fully think that I understand most people are very reasonable and I am honestly quite conflicted on some of the points I made, but i introduced them for sake of discussion. Its something i have been thinking a lot about lately I apologize the wall of texts there many other specific topics i never touched on I just hit 3 majors ones I can feel people relate to please share your own views and thoughts.
p.s. I also posted this in hope of generating a better thread than 1776 which im sure more users than just me are sick to death of x3