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    Default ABDL history

    I saw some great entries here a few years back about the history of the ABDL subculture. Now I'm trying to search for it and coming up blank. Any suggestions about finding those old threads?

    The story I've been told is that there were three guys in AB outfits who ran into each other at Mardi Gras in New Orleans back in the seventies. They quickly realized that this was more than just silly costumes and they connected. Their conversation lead to starting DPF (Diaper Pail Fraternity - later Diaper Pail Friends).

    There was some interesting information on this site about the growth of our group. I think this is important, and I'd love to collect some of the accounts.

    Of course, there's ABDL activity going back to mythology, but the American boys who actually cracked this thing open are heros, and they deserve some kind of acknowledgement.

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    This is interesting, but I don't remember that topic coming up on ADISC, and I've been a member since 2008. Maybe I just missed it. It seems strange to me, however, that AB/DL recognition would have started in Mardi Gras, in the 70's. The internet didn't actively come about until the 80's, but didn't gain greater usage until the 90's. AB/DL activity has been around since the advent of diapers, and self wetting and pee play has probably always been around.

    I know I was with a shrink in 1970 for getting caught, and the shrink knew about it, so I'm sure it's been a documented psychological phenomena long before the 70's. As for DPF, that was owned and operated by two men, and there have been some recent things written about them on this site. I'm sure a member will jump to the challenge and fill us both in.

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    A long time ago I recall older members discussing how adults wearing diapers came up in magazines from time to time. I think this was in the 80s.

    People would write in to an advice column, people would respond in the next issue. Or people simply took out personal ads.

    ABDL 'culture' didn't really find it's feet until the internet came along.

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    It has come up before, I remember that thread. In fact, I think I may have started such a thread once. I remember older members talking about porn mags that featured occasional ABDL material for ages, and sometimes finding ABDL supplies in some adult stores. Paul Rulof has a well put together section in his book, "Age Play: From Diapers to Diplomas," which you can preview much of on Amazon. He says that Paraphilic Infantilism entered the DSM in 1980, the earliest published case study dates to 1954, and earliest described case dates to the early 1900's. I'd recommend giving it a once over if the topic interests you.

    As far as ADISC goes, if you've searched around some, I'm sure you already know that pre 2008, it was I don't know much about how it started, though -- something about a cow in a diaper, I think, but that's all I'm good for

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    You know, that would be an interesting subject to read about. I think the first time I ever heard of AB stuff showing up anywhere was the early '80s but I could be wrong... I do know DPF was one of the first groups around and I THINK another group. You know I also have wondered something about the history of ABDL age play myself.


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    It was the early 80s when I first came across mention in print of other people who liked diapers or behaving like babies. It was a very small blurb for a video in a softcore porn catalog we received at my house (never found out what triggered it coming to us). It wasn't too long after that that Phil Donahue had an episode on his talk show with adult babies. I saw a bit of it but it was too mortifying to watch even if I had been alone in the house, which I wasn't. Too great a chance that someone might see it and talk about it.

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    I'm reasonably sure DPF started in the late 1970s, although don't ask me to cite a reference now. I know there was an early iteration of circa 2000 or so, and there were a couple other sites running in that same time frame. I know Jerry Springer did an episode with fetishes, one of the segments featuring an adult baby, in about 1997 or 1998. I've actually met some of the people that were on the 'net in the early days (Mr. X actually had pics up in the late 1990s) and some of the people that were behind a couple of the websites.

    How it is that DPF ever got started, though, is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbabyx View Post
    I'm reasonably sure DPF started in the late 1970s, although don't ask me to cite a reference now. I know there was an early iteration of circa 2000 or so, and there were a couple other sites running in that same time frame. I know Jerry Springer did an episode with fetishes, one of the segments featuring an adult baby, in about 1997 or 1998. I've actually met some of the people that were on the 'net in the early days (Mr. X actually had pics up in the late 1990s) and some of the people that were behind a couple of the websites.

    How it is that DPF ever got started, though, is beyond me.
    1978 apparently, according to this post. There's some other rather interesting information in that post and the rest of the thread.

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    I'mma just repost what I've said before in the other thread though edited to make it a bit more relevant.


    As far as on the internet goes, here's some of what I recall from websites past and present.

    Usenet (Still Around, but not Active?)
    There was a social group on Usenet, well before the days of the typical modern site forum and whatnot. The Usenet group was one of the first *BDL networks/newsgroups on the internet. From what I remember hearing, they had a mailing list and organised meetups and the like.

    Yior (Dead)
    At some stage you may see someone refer to a site called "Yior". Basically, it a pedo site [rather poorly] disguised as a *BDL site. It basically hosted pictures of young children (I'm talking all ages under 10), some in diapers, some in just clothes, some not even in either of those things, but still scantily covered. Eventually it got reported, taken down and the site owner busted up by the feds, IIRC.

    DPF (Dead)
    Taken from the website:

    DPF is the world's oldest and the largest organization (by far) in the world devoted to adult babies and diaper lovers. How old is DPF, you may ask? Well, long before the Web, long before Windows, before Mac's, before DOS, almost before the first commercial personal computers were available, there was DPF. Beginning almost 20 years ago, thousands of adult babies and diaper lovers around the globe have been corresponding, meeting, having parties, finding mommies or daddies, falling in love and forming permanent life-long relationships - thanks to DPF. Since 1980, well over 15,000 people from all over the world have found happiness in DPF. It is our fondest hope that we can share this with you, too.

    In regards to the *BDL scene, DPF is definitely one of the sites that has been around for a long time. It peaked for a while having been a really active place for both teens and adults alike. This continued on until people realised that it harboured quite a few paedophiles, notably the Teen Chatroom, which felt more like a pickup service for the creepy, sicko types. Surprisingly, over the years, the place did not change design in the slightest: it attracted annoyed people with the background, site layout and, of course, freaked many out with your typical "omg do u mess?!?!" feel to the forums. A dangerous site that, unfortunately, many new people to the fetish found before more respectable places.

    Deeker (Dead)
    Deeker's site has been around since May of 1996 and the owner has enjoyed it's status as being one of the most popular sites for *BDL stories (read, NOT literature). I'm sure the majority of people within the fetish community would either know about Deeker's, regularly visit Deeker's or submit content to Deeker's. In its 12 years of operation, the site has maintained a steady stream of submissions.

    In a more opinionated light, the site basically caters to the fantasies of the owner, having strictly dedicated the content to focus around young boys in diapers. Go ahead, try submitting a story or sighting about a girl, it'll get knocked back quicker than a skydiver without a parachute. He seems to have birthed the site out of his own ideal of a "perfect diaper boy" and ultimately centres the whole site around the notions that "all boys belong in thick, white diapers" and that they "should be highlighted and exposed at every conceivable opportunity by the females that look after them and treat them like babies".

    The biggest catch to the site, however, is that he claims it doesn't support nor condones paedophiles in any respect, yet the majority of content on his site is wanking/fantasy material. A sizable portion of it involving sex between minors, forced humiliation, diaper usage and regression of minors and some other things that are child abuse by any strech of the imagination.

    Since making this post the first time, a number of thing have changed. Notably, the site is no more. I can't recall exactly what led to its demise, but if memory serves me correctly, Deeker himself pulled it down for personal reasons. In its wake, a number of imitation sites popped up - most creepy of all was one where the owner assumed the personality of one of Deeker's plushies. However, since the initial aftermath, nothing has really taken its place. Forums like this are probably the most active places for story-writers to post their content. Deeker himself actually has an account here, though I haven't checked recently to see if he's active or the account still exists for that matter.

    Diaper-Boys (Reincarnated)
    Still Was one of the major *BDL sites in existence. Used to be quite a large site with a huge member-base (where I assume most are more interested in the Gallery than making genuine friendships). It's not a bad site, it's just not one you go to when you are looking for something more than discussion about diapers or baby-stuff. It was usually one of the first sites new people to the fetish come across.

    Although, I will mention it has had a few problems with paedophiles in the past (as if the big stamp of "Paedophiles are not welcome here!" on the front page was any giveaway). There was a particular case that lead to a few tightened restrictions on the place. I used to warn younger people about going there.

    A year or two ago the admins had a falling out, some personal spite got in the way and the site was essentially taken down. However, it was put back online when one of the admins revived with a back-up copy of the site. Most of the original content is still on there.

    TeenBabyNet (Still Active)
    ADISC is the spinoff from this site. It's a decent site, I don't have too much of a problem with it. When I was active on there, there were some cool people who just made the place really special. It was the first non-creepy *BDL community I ever came across, so it does mean a lot to me. The site alone put into perspective that I could participate in this fetish and not feel awkward or disgusted about it.

    As you probably can gather, I have an account on there (quite an old one, mind you - registered in April 2004, which is years earlier than a lot of the people currently using the site), but I don't really use it anymore because I made a decision to leave the site. Why? Well, for the most part it's just not as active as I liked it to be. I would force myself to not log on for a couple of days just to bring the new post count up to something substantial to flick through. That was a bit of a drag.

    Other than that, for the longest time I never saw any of the admins active on the site, which lead me to feel they no longer cared about it. There was a time before my official departure from the site where I left for about a year (the same time I left and I came back to all new faces. My problem wasn't so much as having to integrate into these people's way of things, it was that I felt they made no genuine effort to include anyone outside their social circle. That was fine by me, I just collected my things and left. Looking at the site now, very little has changed. The same faces are still there, it's still not very active (which is both a good and bad thing).

    Diaperspace/RUPadded/Diaper-BOIS/DL-Boy/DLtown/Fetlife/other social networking sites (Some are active, some gasping for life, others are dead)
    The new kids on the block. They didn't really seem to emerge until after the collapse of Deeker and the invention of online social networking in general. Most of these sites are trashy and full of creepers looking for random hookups and I would not recommend using them at all. Fetlife is about the only social networking site with both an active *BDL community and a decent, mostly intelligent userbase.

    Never had much to do with this place, but it doesn't really fit into the above category. Maybe someone could elaborate the history of this place?


    Of course, this is really just a small slice of the internet-age *BDL community from the perspective of myself. Feel free to add or correct anything.

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    Daily Diapers must have been around for 10 years or more. I think, as the name suggests, it may have started off as a photo site updated with new ones each day, not sure when the forum started though.

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