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Thread: Zeitgeist Movement and Fetishes (Possible Genesis of Fetishes)

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    SeanPalladino

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    After watching the third installment in the 'Zeitgeist' film series, by Peter Joseph, brought me to the question of sexuality and fetishes. For those who don't know, the film details the 'Zeitgeist Movement', which is the 'activist arm of the Venus Project'. The 'Venus Project' is essentially a Utopian society, though they feel that changing human behaviors will stop the possibility of a totalitarian regime.

    Anyway, most of us have this sexual urge to the feel/smell/noise of a diaper, and some of us feel that we understand its origins. But when I went about finding information regarding this urge on the Venus Project FAQ, I stumbled upon something very interesting. Here's the full quote taken straight from the FAQ section on the Venus Project website (with bolded sentences):



    Quote Originally Posted by Venus Project's FAQ
    We view the facts of sex are as follows: If children are raised in an environment where nude swimming is the norm, then their sexual attitudes and behaviors will evolve differently than in situations where their bodies are always covered and hidden. Aberrant sexual behavior and fetishes would probably disappear in cultures where unclothed bodies are regarded as natural. Deviant sexual behaviors like Peeping Toms, selling nudity in magazines, exhibitionism, and similar activities are mostly generated in societies where sex is covert and people are deprived about it. Unfortunately, much religious training seeks to perpetuate conventional sexual attitudes with particular emphasis on feelings of guilt. Societies, which accept unscientific values and beliefs about sex, are bound to generate unhealthy deviations involving cruelty, sadism, etc.

    Sexual attitudes and behaviors in a saner society will evolve very differently from conventional societies today. We think nudity will become more commonplace on beaches, parks, and elsewhere, and that this will, in fact, become the norm in the future. Non-judgmental attitudes about sexual preference will eventually prevail. Sex in the culture will lack inhibition, thus reducing the interest in dancing girls, enticing displays, sexual extravagance, etc. Sexual distortions and abnormalities result from judgmental religious concepts regarding nudity and sexual preference.

    Jacque Fresco, founder of The Venus Project, once lived on a Polynesian island in the South Pacific where the natives wore no clothing. This was associated with a completely different value system concerning sex and nudity. They did not behave like people do in a sexually deprived culture. The males didn't stare at the female body, but rather looked into their eyes when speaking to them. During sex they stroked the entire body. When you pet a dog you donít stop at the balls--you stroke the entire dog. They were uninterested in photos of nudes, male or female. They didnít brag about sexual conquests or emphasize their sexual behavior, and it appeared to be as natural as any other activity among them. They engaged in sex when they were old enough to do so and did so without cruelty or fetishes. Those distortions mostly occur in modern ďcivilizationĒ where deprivation and sexual morality are dominant.

    The Venus Project feels that sexual preferences are byproducts of a personís experiences and we make no judgments regarding those preferences. Our aim is to find out what conditions are responsible for deviant behavior in all aspects of society and then to scientifically design an environment that will evolve the best in human values and relationships. A better social design in a resource-based economy will evolve productive and cooperative citizens.
    When I thought about this, I kind of agree with their point. One of the reasons that, I believe, started this diaper fetish is the apparent strangeness that this fetish is perceived in society. That idea might not have been the entire reason, but its probably a significant portion of it. It could also stem from the "Internets", as so many pundits of said, for allowing "strange" sexual behaviors to be readily available to any teen with an Internet connection and Google.

    Could this idea of society's cloaked view of sex be the genesis for sexual behaviors? Can society change after centuries of these behaviors? I really want to read about your opinions because it seems like an important discussion.

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    The reason you are having so many questions is because you took this film seriously more than thirty seconds into it.

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    SeanPalladino

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    The first movie, I admit, was highly conspiratorial. But the final two films dig through the fundamental process of money creation and our basic human nature at work. There are hundreds of misplaced facts and highly improbable lines in the entirety of the first movie, but the editor, Peter Joseph, did not dive into any of those ideas in the subsequent films. I'm not a conspiracy nut. I'm just trying to find another kind of life... free from all the problems that this capitalistic society causes.

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    AmbezeSubHealth

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    Sex is fun for every one. Much of sexual morality is stupid.

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    When you pet a dog you don’t stop at the balls--you stroke the entire dog.
    I feel compelled to say that I don't even start at the balls. I don't touch those things at all when petting a dog! *laughs*

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuddleWoozle View Post
    I feel compelled to say that I don't even start at the balls. I don't touch those things at all when petting a dog! *laughs*
    Ok good... I'm not insane. Thanks.

    WTF pets a dog's "balls"??

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuddleWoozle View Post
    I feel compelled to say that I don't even start at the balls. I don't touch those things at all when petting a dog! *laughs*
    Yeah, I've got to second that. I did think their premise made sense. Studying other cultures which are more primitive and view nudity as natural could teach us a few things. Interestingly enough, I suspect these cultures have homosexuality, and that would suggest that being attracted to someone of the same sex is a function of the brain more than a function of society.

    As for the internet, it doesn't contribute to one liking diapers, because I am a pre-internet diaper lover. But sexual repression, bad potty training, and a myriad of other social problems may have caused this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogboy View Post
    Yeah, I've got to second that. I did think their premise made sense. Studying other cultures which are more primitive and view nudity as natural could teach us a few things. Interestingly enough, I suspect these cultures have homosexuality, and that would suggest that being attracted to someone of the same sex is a function of the brain more than a function of society.

    As for the internet, it doesn't contribute to one liking diapers, because I am a pre-internet diaper lover. But sexual repression, bad potty training, and a myriad of other social problems may have caused this.
    And see, I'm one that's always loved diapers, as far back as I can remember, and I remember even as a little kid wrapping towels around myself trying to simulate a diaper. That was pre-internet and pre-puberty. I didn't have abusive parents, and although I wasn't a popular kid I didn't get beat up or picked on, either. I seriously think it's right there with being gay-it just happens.

    And LOL at taking Zeitgeist seriously. I will say, though, the first one was an interesting thing to watch, as I appreciate other viewpoints. If nothing else, it gave me something new to consider (and then reject as pure conspiracy theory with nothing backing it).

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    he venus society concept is an interesting onetobe sue butimcurioushow itdwor wihumans, as humans are, in our high numbers, even half our world population.

    the fundemental problem i see ishow o ovverride human natre that is inherently short sighted and not very bright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanPalladino View Post
    they feel that changing human behaviors will stop the possibility of a totalitarian regime.
    Wait, isn't changing human behavior what totalitarian regimes themselves typically do? Besides, aren't things like sexual fetishism and other unique behavior patterns what makes us human and separates us from animals?

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