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    Default Can we please stop bashing the crap authors?

    Come on people quit it. Just because a story isn't "Lord of the Ring" quality. dosn't mean we can't injoy it.
    Let the 13 year old virgins Wright their pr0n. It's what they want to wright, and what I want to read.

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    I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean.

    The story section for this site is not really for explicit content, since we have minors on this site. Anything that is for more mature readers should be posted elsewhere, or have an easily visible disclaimer in the title or before the text.

    The point of the stories forum is to provide contructive criticism, and that means telling people their story isn't very good, but in a constructive way. If you feel someone is being nasty in the way they're criticising someone then report the post.

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    I agree that we shouldn't be too harsh, particularly on some of the younger writers, but as a writer I think it's important to hear the things people dislike about my writing as well as the things that they liked.

    There are some very talented writers on this forum, who I'm sure have some good tips to share with regards to writing a good quality story. Every good writer should look forward to receiving constructive criticism, as it is what will help them to improve their future writing. If aspects of a story aren't good, whether because of bad spelling and grammar, a rushed style, big plot holes or a complete lack of originality then the reader has the right to point these out. By putting your writing on a forum you are putting it in the public domain, and as such should expect to receive honest critiques, good or bad, of your work. There is no point in telling someone something is good if it isn't.

    In my opinion the reader has every right to criticise, or praise, a piece of writing in the public domain. I do think that people can sometimes be unnecessarily harsh when commenting on an author's work, offering plenty of criticism but no advice or examples from the author to learn from, and perhaps that is an issue. When i critique another author's writing I try to offer clear examples as to how the author can improve their work, but if the storyline is crap I won't pretend it isn't. I will point out examples of bad writing, and give suggestions for how to improve this. When people offer criticism with regards to my own work I would expect them to do the same. I agree that just posting 'It's crap' isn't very helpful. It's much more helpful to include some things the author has done well in addition to the things they've done badly, and to include some helpful advice as to how they can improve their future writing.

    We shouldn't stop bashing the crap authors - we just need to ensure that we criticise them in a way that is constructive so we can help them to improve. If you tell people crap work is good they will write more, if you tell them it's bad they will work harder to make it good for next time. Surely we want to be encouraging people to write good AB/DL fiction, not just more crap to fap to (there was enough of that on D**ker).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talula View Post
    I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean.
    This is because the original post seems to have been written in Thugglish.

    thugg_lite: I'm not sure what form of "bashing" you are pushing back against--as I specifically ignore the RP/Story sub-forums here--but it is actually painful for some people to read text that is horribly mangled. Not "Lord of the Rings" quality? Fine, I'm good with this. But when things like "wright" and "write," "their" and "they're," and basic grammar rules of English are ignored or even obliterated--NOT as an artistic device, but due to sloppiness or ignorance or willful neglect--then corrections need making.

    Could you point to an example of "bashing?" Constructive criticism is actually a good thing, and we in the post-post-modern world fail to see this and instead feel "attacked" or "bashed" or what have you.

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    Agree about being more constructive in criticism (though addressing issues with a bit of decency isn't a strong point of, it seems, many on this forum). However this isn't d**ker, this isn't DD, DS, RUP and so on, and people don't want the story forum to become nothing but short, poor quality fap stories. In my experience, it seems a lot of people that have been around here awhile are "jaded" and thus when they see some poor story, that sounds like nothing more then a fap story , they end up being more harsher then those that are newer (maybe its due to seeing most don't become good members or just tired of the same thing w.e.). Nothing against anyone that has been here a long time, ANY forum I've been to you see the same thing of the more jaded regulars who start to get harsher when someone new does something "bad," so to speak.

    No-one is wanting Lord of the Rings quality (does that mean really long with nothing but 40000 hours of walking?) but we want something of a higher quality then some of those stories. Which is why being constructive in the critique (and trying to avoid putting them on the defensive saying this like "OMG this is shityyy!!" and the such) is the best thing. If you are looking for nothing but stories to fap to, then I'd suggest looking elsewhere for those stories. Lastly, they write it, and we don't enjoy it (sorry I'm kind of picky about spelling xD)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote_Howl View Post
    No-one is wanting Lord of the Rings quality (does that mean really long with nothing but 40000 hours of walking?) but we want something of a higher quality then some of those stories.
    One does not simply pee in Huggies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by h3g3l View Post
    One does not simply pee in Huggies!
    You have passed the test, you shall remain Galadriel, and pass into the west.

    Writing posted in the public domain is open to public criticism, and people give criticism in different ways. Comes with the deal so to say.

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    Wellcome to the internet where anyone can and most likely will say anything they desire.

    In otherwords they are not going to cut you slack for being young, stupid, lazy, etc.


    I am guessing this is the story in question. http://www.adisc.org/forum/stories-p...l-diapers.html

    I read it and I found the plot laughable since it simply wouldn't happen not to metion be illegal in one or more ways. The last school I attended had maybe 112 students tops, most coming from either group homes and/or juvenile hall while the others were day students with emotional or anti-social problems. Well, even before I ever got to this school they limited one student to the bathroom at a time. If the bathroom was graffitied or say a baggie of drugs were left the school instantly knew who did it. The school in the story would institute a similar policy since 1. it's cheaper 2. not illegal 3. faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thugg_lite View Post
    Come on people quit it. Just because a story isn't "Lord of the Ring" quality. dosn't mean we can't injoy it.
    Let the 13 year old virgins Wright their pr0n. It's what they want to wright, and what I want to read.
    The only reason I can think of for WANTING to read shallow fap-stories with horrible spelling is to... well, fap to it. I'm surprised no one's asked about this, yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephiel View Post
    The only reason I can think of for WANTING to read shallow fap-stories with horrible spelling is to... well, fap to it. I'm surprised no one's asked about this, yet.
    Well since he referred to it as porn earlier in the post it kind of goes without saying, we all know why people read those sort of stories so there is no point questioning why he wants to read them. It's like asking why someone buys Playboy or some similar magazine, it isn't to read the articles is it.

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