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    I'm keeping my own views on the whole religious debacle out of this -- but what I do think is wrong is the fact that the South Park episode was censored out of complete fear by radical terrorists. This is a problem.

    Whether or not what my views are are positive or negative towards showing Mohammed on screen, there's something we need to understand. Muslim law says that we cannot depict the image of Mohammed - period. Now let me point something else out -- according to Christian law, we cannot use the Lord's name in vain. But people do this on TV all the time, and those who oppose it don't get anywhere, because it's freedom of speech. We don't see that get censored, now do we? A quote from the episode was "what, we can make fun of these people, but we can't rag on others because they might hurt us? That's stupid!" -- and it's also completely correct.

    Now what Comedy Central did by completely bleeping out nearly 3/4 of the whole episode was stupid. We're letting them win. That's what terrorism is. They inflict fear into you to make you do what they want. We just let them win, good job guys. The owners/writers of South park are PISSED. And they have good reason to be.

    Stop being a puppet and grow some balls.

    And as for my own view on the matter now, it's not my place to tell people how to practice their religion. It's their religion so they have every right to carry out their beliefs in their own way. But what they cant do is tell others how to do things. If they're offended by what's being shown on TV, then don't watch it. We're in 2010. There's so many other channels on the television. There's the internet. There's you know, life. Get over it.

    /rant.

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    Does anyone else find it hilarious that south park made an episode about this way back when about this happening to family guy, and now it's actually happening to them?

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    I think I saw the first airing of the show with just the swear words bleeped out. They had Mohammad concealed as part of the joke. A teacher friend of mine at school told me today that the creators of South Park have received Arab death threats. My response was, let them come. In fact, let them threaten me and come into my house. They'll be crapping their Mohammad pants when the hear the big sliding mechanism of my 12 gauge, and the slide on my 9mm semi-auto.

    Even if they were wearing explosives around their chest, I'll bet I could blast them into small parts, sending wires and detonation cap in one direction, while sending the explosives, heart and rib cage in another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogboy View Post
    I think I saw the first airing of the show with just the swear words bleeped out. They had Mohammad concealed as part of the joke. A teacher friend of mine at school told me today that the creators of South Park have received Arab death threats. My response was, let them come. In fact, let them threaten me and come into my house. They'll be crapping their Mohammad pants when the hear the big sliding mechanism of my 12 gauge, and the slide on my 9mm semi-auto.

    Even if they were wearing explosives around their chest, I'll bet I could blast them into small parts, sending wires and detonation cap in one direction, while sending the explosives, heart and rib cage in another.
    Correct. I have yet to find a copy of the episode before it was bleeped on the internet though.

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    DannyTheNinja

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    You know what, I agree. There's a real double standard here.

    In Muslim culture, there are hadith (traditions which supplement the official text of the Qur'an) which explicitly prohibit the depiction of Muhammad. I do think that drawing a picture of a teddy bear and calling it Muhammad is borderline, but if it was done specifically to test the limits, then Muslims have quite the right to be upset.

    In Christian culture, the Bible (specifically, the fourth of the Ten Commandments) explicitly forbids using the name of God "in vain", or in modern terms, to swear using the name of God. Phrases such as "oh my God" are borderline, and I avoid them personally, but it's pretty obvious that one is violating this commandment by exclaiming "Jesus Christ" in a swearing fashion - or worse, throwing the f-bomb in between Jesus and Christ. I honestly am really offended when people do that.

    And yet, TV networks censor the former but not the latter.

    Why? Because the Muslim radicals threatened violence. We're respecting religions out of fear.

    This is wrong. Everyone should honor basic, reasonable requests pertaining to religious culture out of respect for others, in my opinion, even if that doesn't mean agreeing with those specific religions. Freedom of speech means you can be a douche bag, but not necessarily that you should.

    --Danny

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    Mako

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    They had Buddha doing lines of coke and Jesus looking at porn to illustrate the double standard they have for Mohammed. There are others who've taken up the fight, using the launching pad of the South Park episode to demonstrate to radical muslims that they can't suppress free speech and force others to follow their superstitions.

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    Don't get me wrong, I completely respect muslims as it's their God-given right to practice their religion and their faith the way they want to. What I'm angry about is the people who succumb to the radicals out of fear.

    That's called terrorism.

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    I'm still waiting to see this episode - I catch them on southparkstudios.com because I don't have a TV in my dorm. They are usually posted within hours of airing, get pulled after a week, and then get reposted after about a month, presumably because of the way that their contract with Comedy Central is written.

    However, they have not posted this episode yet because they don't have permission to air the unaltered video from the network. At a guess, this probably means that they can air the edited version but are refusing to do so.

    They have this statement posted on the site:



    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Parker and Trey Stone on southparkstudios.com
    In the 14 years we've been doing South Park we have never done a show that we couldn't stand behind. We delivered our version of the show to Comedy Central and they made a determination to alter the episode. It wasn't some meta-joke on our part. Comedy Central added the bleeps. In fact, Kyle's customary final speech was about intimidation and fear. It didn't mention Muhammad at all but it got bleeped too. We'll be back next week with a whole new show about something completely different and we'll see what happens to it.
    You can smell their disgust at the irony of censoring that Kyle speech.

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    I haven't seen the show yet; I like watching it on South Park Studios. I was doing stuff online and a friend comes on and says they were beeping the name and we laughed our asses off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mm3 View Post
    I'm keeping my own views on the whole religious debacle out of this -- but what I do think is wrong is the fact that the South Park episode was censored out of complete fear by radical terrorists. This is a problem.

    Whether or not what my views are are positive or negative towards showing Mohammed on screen, there's something we need to understand. Muslim law says that we cannot depict the image of Mohammed - period. Now let me point something else out -- according to Christian law, we cannot use the Lord's name in vain. But people do this on TV all the time, and those who oppose it don't get anywhere, because it's freedom of speech. We don't see that get censored, now do we? A quote from the episode was "what, we can make fun of these people, but we can't rag on others because they might hurt us? That's stupid!" -- and it's also completely correct.

    Now what Comedy Central did by completely bleeping out nearly 3/4 of the whole episode was stupid. We're letting them win. That's what terrorism is. They inflict fear into you to make you do what they want. We just let them win, good job guys. The owners/writers of South park are PISSED. And they have good reason to be.

    Stop being a puppet and grow some balls.

    And as for my own view on the matter now, it's not my place to tell people how to practice their religion. It's their religion so they have every right to carry out their beliefs in their own way. But what they cant do is tell others how to do things. If they're offended by what's being shown on TV, then don't watch it. We're in 2010. There's so many other channels on the television. There's the internet. There's you know, life. Get over it.

    /rant.
    You realize of course that the whole point of south park is to get people to say stuff exactly like this?
    It's all just making fun of the stupid shit we pull in american society. X]

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