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    Question What’s the role of orgasm in wiring artificial sexual tastes?

    Since this topic includes discussion of porn and masturbation habits, I thought this was the best place for it, although it basically takes off from where all those interminable "why did we end up ABDL" threads left off...

    Also please don't hate on me for floating the idea of a "cure" - I know we aren't sick, but I'm pretty sure that there are many people here who would, simply out of convenience, prefer not to have this special form of deviant sexuality.

    While reading about something completely different I came across this interesting article here:

    ?Straight Men, Gay Porn? and Other Brain Map Mysteries | Psychology Today

    Gist <i>I suspect that these individuals saw changes because they reversed the "neurons that fire together wire together" rule. That is, they removed pusuit of orgasm for a time—with its unwanted, but tightly wired, associations. This somehow allowed their brains to shed, or begin to shed, artifically acquired associations.
    ....
    What all this means, and for whom, remains to be seen. For example, would it be possible to use this technique </i>[sex-without-orgasm] </i> to re-wire sexual maps acquired in childhood through misfortune? Doidge describes a study done on a BDSM community (bondage and sadomasochism). It revealed that all the masochists had undergone painful medical procedures during childhood. Could these adults find out what their sexual tastes would have been in the absence of such experiences? And what of unwanted associations acquired due to child sexual abuse? Would a period of sex without orgasm (to the unwanted stimuli) allow a brain to reboot and then align with its earlier wiring?

    Orgasm is so enticing that our brains automatically take the fastest path to it, just like taking the most direct route across a field of grass. If we never allow the grass to grow back, we keep walking the path of least resistance even if it formed purely as a quirk of fate.

    The possibility that humans may be able to free their sexual brain maps from unwanted debris is fascinating.</i>

    Interested to hear what you guys make of this...

    For me, I really do wonder whether it might be possible through some technique to train myself out of diaper fetishist desires?
    (I'm not so much bothered about my AB-type desires, which are less awkward to deal with.)

    I have to observations to make: 1. when I was in a romantic relationship and having what might be called "normal" sex, my AB/DL type fantasies went away to a large extent (and I believe others have noticed something similar?)
    and 2. now that I'm not involved with anyone my *ahem* masturbating and reading ABDL fiction has become a regular thing, and my fantasies and desires for diapers have become stronger.

    It's late and I'm not sure how I feel about this myself, so to kick things off...

    1. Have you ever experienced a significant weakening / strengthening in your ABDL desire that seemed like it was brought on by your own behaviour?
    - sub question, I believe there are some "Wives And Girlfriends" who have taken up ABDL after being exposed to it by partners?
    and
    2. On the basis of your instinct and experience, what would you say is the possibility of using changes in behaviour to control / remove ABDL desires?
    3. Would you want to - if a non-invasive, non-drug, self-directed technique that has minimal side effects was developed?

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    I like the article you have found. It makes sense to me. I feel certain that I have heightened the sexual experience either by seeing pictures of diapers on the net, and in reading some stories.

    Interestingly, the article also stated that one could eventually be desensitized to the stimuli by over stimulation, i.e., too much of the same pics, stories, etc., so that it became the norm rather than arousing.

    As for finding a "cure", I'm satisfied with who I am. At least I can become aroused by something so simple, and something that doesn't hurt others. Suppose it was replaced by child attraction? I can understand, however, that a person attracted to infantilism rather than a healthy relationship with another person might want to trade the one for the other.

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    to answer some of your questions:
    1 & 2- yes, as a matter of fact, I've been through a cycle three/four times. now what was that cycle? basically I sometimes just loose interest in taking an active AB/DL e-life, and stop participating in the communities, stop logging in to my IM accounts, created specifically to chat with other AB/DL's. Do I want to stop definatelly? I dont think so, I just take a "break" and every now and then. After a while I get curious again, and exposure to said content gradually makes more interested, untill over-saturation is reached again.
    However, over the course of years, I also notice that those same cycles are diminishing in strength, and now I find myself on a completelly new fandom, to which I was previously exposed, yes, but never took actual interest in (or was fearfull for some dumb reason).

    To comment on the article, it is really interesting and holds great potential for debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toze View Post
    to answer some of your questions:
    1 & 2- yes, as a matter of fact, I've been through a cycle three/four times. now what was that cycle? basically I sometimes just loose interest in taking an active AB/DL e-life, and stop participating in the communities, stop logging in to my IM accounts, created specifically to chat with other AB/DL's. Do I want to stop definatelly? I dont think so, I just take a "break" and every now and then. After a while I get curious again, and exposure to said content gradually makes more interested, untill over-saturation is reached again.
    However, over the course of years, I also notice that those same cycles are diminishing in strength, and now I find myself on a completelly new fandom, to which I was previously exposed, yes, but never took actual interest in (or was fearfull for some dumb reason).

    To comment on the article, it is really interesting and holds great potential for debate.
    Binge-Purge Cycle, is the term you want.

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    Interesting article. But I have tried such techniques; changing imagery during masturbation, and frequency of masturbation just don't work.

    I have always heard that LSD and Psilocybin can help unwire dendrites in the brain, removing cultural prejudice and habits. But I have used those and they dont work either.

    It seems damn near impossible to remove my obsession with diapers. FML

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    It seems that I follow this "cycle" that Toze is talking about. For me it's the 2nd time that I prefer to stop wearing diapers for a while. First I had the CLOSEST call ever since I'm a DL two weeks ago. Also I'm in my workshop a lot lately. The first time the break lasted about three weeks or a month.

    However I continue to be active in the DL community (participating on forums, writing stories and drawing), I just want to stop to wear diapers for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogboy View Post
    I like the article you have found. It makes sense to me. I feel certain that I have heightened the sexual experience either by seeing pictures of diapers on the net, and in reading some stories.

    Interestingly, the article also stated that one could eventually be desensitized to the stimuli by over stimulation, i.e., too much of the same pics, stories, etc., so that it became the norm rather than arousing.

    As for finding a "cure", I'm satisfied with who I am. At least I can become aroused by something so simple, and something that doesn't hurt others. Suppose it was replaced by child attraction? I can understand, however, that a person attracted to infantilism rather than a healthy relationship with another person might want to trade the one for the other.
    Yeah, ive found the same thing with stories, pics, ect. but diapers are only partly sexual for me, so...

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