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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyTyrant View Post
    Well, the thing is you don't know what the criminal is planning to do, if you wait and see it may be too late and its better them that winds up dead that the homeowner; bottom line if they didn't put themselves in such situations they wouldn't have to worry about getting shot dead.

    Guns don't make law abiding citizens into criminals, so the criminals will not get killed by a law abiding citizen just because they felt like it; they have to do something that gives a law abiding citizen reasonable doubt, which you can very easily argue for if they break into your house in the middle of the night; you don't know their intentions and cant wait for them to act on their intentions.
    I understand your point, but will the jury? Will they agree? In Africa Oscar Pistorius shot his girlfriend because he couldn’t wait. He’s in jail. What if its your mother who forgot something she needed and she has the key, so she lets you sleep? Reasonable doubt sure! Clear conscience?

    A gun is a tool and people sometimes start to solve all issues with arguments that justify the use of a gun regardless of other reasonable solutions. Take a look at the rate with which police officers shoot people. However stupidthe reason, if there is any reason to shoot someone, the police officer won’t get fired.

    At this point it becomes a race to the bottom, next time someone will break in, kill the original home owners, ( its them or me ) and then he/she will slowy empty the house. Dead people don’t need stuff anyway. This race to the bottom has some scary consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland007 View Post
    I understand your point, but will the jury? Will they agree? In Africa Oscar Pistorius shot his girlfriend because he couldn’t wait. He’s in jail. What if its your mother who forgot something she needed and she has the key, so she lets you sleep? Reasonable doubt sure! Clear conscience?

    A gun is a tool and people sometimes start to solve all issues with arguments that justify the use of a gun regardless of other reasonable solutions. Take a look at the rate with which police officers shoot people. However stupidthe reason, if there is any reason to shoot someone, the police officer won’t get fired.

    At this point it becomes a race to the bottom, next time someone will break in, kill the original home owners, ( its them or me ) and then he/she will slowy empty the house. Dead people don’t need stuff anyway. This race to the bottom has some scary consequences.
    I guess the people living in the house can wait just long enough to let your Girlfriend or Mom or whoever identify themselves, all you would have to do is wait in a safe position and let them know you are up and ask them to identify themselves; once you know it's really an intruder and not Family or Friends you basically have license to stand your ground and make sure you are safe.

    It just sucks that some people break and enter in the first place and make these situations happen so there has to be a question of if it's an intruder or family/friends late at night; nobody wants to kill family/friends, but some criminals are very dangerous; especially criminals high on drugs like PCP.

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