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    Quote Originally Posted by w0lfpack91 View Post
    Antifa was the catalyst of that engagement. Had they not first attcked it would have never escalated. And antifa is extreme left terrorists.
    What absolute nonsense! How can you be brainwashed into thinking that "far-left terrorists" are responsible for the actions of far-right terrorists?!

    That's beyond fake news. It's absolutely mindless victim-blaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiny View Post
    What absolute nonsense! How can you be brainwashed into thinking that "far-left terrorists" are responsible for the actions of far-right terrorists?!

    That's beyond fake news. It's absolutely mindless victim-blaming.
    Oh yes tiny because it's completely unfounded that Antifa was even partly responsible (heavy sarcasam) The reality is it would have never turned violent had antifa not shown up

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...nce-fbi-242235

    Antifa is responsable for so much wanton destruction of property and people have died because of them. I mean if you can't see this than your blind or Intentionally burying your head in the sand. I mean really what next are you gonna try and convince me that Fidel Castro was a model leader, Or that Joseph Stalin was a modern visionary? The left is responsible for some of the worst atrocities the world has ever seen, There was the German holocost which was perpetrated by Adolf Hitler who was a leftist leader of the nationalist socialist prty of Germany (Nazi), or the russian "workers revolution" which led to the rise of communisim in russia, which several million people died or were just out right murdered under vladimir Lenin and joseph stalin.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Slomo View Post
    "And it never will". Sound familiar? You agreed with my statement it had not been filed by adding it never will be filed. Except before that you said it had been filed- twice.

    So which one was it? You lied about the imprachment being filed, or you lied about recognizing it never was filed? Either way you are by default, in agreement for having lied. You got caught, time to own up to it.
    Ok Since you don't seem to be able to do research on your own like you expect me to do Let me put this very clear.

    From the time the election was finalized until midway through the summer democrats were looking for every excuse they could to try and impeach trump They filed on 2 separate occaisions And were dismissed and denied. Recently it has finally sunk into that thick skull that Nancy Pelosi has That there's more to impeachment then just law And that they never stood a chance no matter how hard they tried, She has recently gone on record denying all aspects of impeaching trump in order to try and bury the topic in an attempt to make trump supporters feel "safe" and let their guard down so they can get more democrats elected in the next election and regain majority. the problem is with leftist liberals and Democrat actions In recent years no sane person would vote Democrat If anything they will vote independent. But democrats have proved repeatedly over the last few months that They have no problem with supporting terrorist organizations so long as they back Their interests, as shown by their unwillingness to prosecute or even discuss problimatic antifa terrorists.

    So once again yes for several months they have been attempting it and only recently within the last 2 or 3 months did she finally understand that they can't do it without the house majority No matter how much evidence they have.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...impeachment-t/

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...-pelosi-244336

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    Quote Originally Posted by w0lfpack91 View Post
    Oh yes tiny because it's completely unfounded that Antifa was even partly responsible (heavy sarcasam) The reality is it would have never turned violent had antifa not shown up

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...nce-fbi-242235

    Antifa is responsable for so much wanton destruction of property and people have died because of them. I mean if you can't see this than your blind or Intentionally burying your head in the sand. I mean really what next are you gonna try and convince me that Fidel Castro was a model leader, Or that Joseph Stalin was a modern visionary? The left is responsible for some of the worst atrocities the world has ever seen, There was the German holocost which was perpetrated by Adolf Hitler who was a leftist leader of the nationalist socialist prty of Germany (Nazi), or the russian "workers revolution" which led to the rise of communisim in russia, which several million people died or were just out right murdered under vladimir Lenin and joseph stalin.
    You can't blame Antifa for the actions of someone who wasn't even part of Antifa! That's ridiculous!

    The protesters the right-wing terrorist murdered weren't even part of Antifa. Two were police officers. I guess it shows the sickening levels to which the right will stoop.

    (Again, you're getting the parodic sarcasm, right?)

    And then, one of the idols the right-wing worship will create fake-news to make the right look innocent... and right-wing minions just laps it up. So... which is that: blindness or "intentional sticking your head in the sand"...?

    https://www.snopes.com/2017/08/17/ar...ually-violent/

    And you're claiming that Hitler was on the left?! Come on! That's daft propaganda used by far-right Neo-Nazis.

    You're way too hung-up on the unrealistic belief that there are two totally distinct teams of groups of people in this world -- the left, made up of violent rioters, fascist dictators, and so on, and the right, entirely made up of people who have never done anything wrong.

    Anyway, I'll leave you with a recent series of Twitter messages to someone who claimed that the Nazis were socialist. It's not the most polite response, but it's quite amusing and the points are valid.



    Quote Originally Posted by @stillgray
    Nazis were socialist. https://t.co/WTmYzfxlKi


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    Ok, dickhead, I did this politely to someone else earlier, but now I'm going to rinse you. Prepare. https://t.co/HcgpKHY3Cq


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    Yeah, the Nazis called themselves the 'National Socialists', and they even nicked some (incredibly benign) socialist policies...


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    It is, however, a total misnomer, it's like the World Series, or Democratic People's Republic of Korea, or 'ethics in gaming journalism'.


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    The Nazis were fascists. Indisputably. They drew their ideology from Italy's fascists, who arose in reaction to the Left.


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    The Italian Right, @stillgray, still mired in 19th century thought, could not tackle the explosion in left-wing organization.


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    Mussolini gives us the first fascist platform - national/racial superiority, rearmament & expansion, and consolidation of capital.


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    The Italian Fascists appropriated, wholesale, Roman imagery, such as the 'fasces', to evoke renewed national pride & a sense of superiority. http://pic.twitter.com/nOr1ohA76P


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    The Italian Fascists sought, @stillgray, to expand & reclaim historically Italian lands (mirroring a large portion of the old Roman Empire). http://pic.twitter.com/2Rot3O9gZN


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    After nicking some socialist economic policies (public works & spending), fascist government formed corporate cartels, enriching the few.


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    Hitler & his Deutcher Arbeiter Partei mates see this and decide that they need to steal support from actual socialists, @StillGray... http://pic.twitter.com/Fq9ylQcch7


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    ...so the DAP rebadge themselves as the NSDAP... Socialism still being a relatively new ideology. It's like adding 'e-' to a product name. http://pic.twitter.com/AwsIr5CPaE


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    Otherwise, they were fascist - 1. Saw themselves as racially/nationally superior, 2. Wanted rearmament & expansion, 3. Consolidated capital.


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    1. Do I really need to go into their views on race & their feelings towards the Jews? http://pic.twitter.com/gpSd44gojm


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    2. Do I really need to go into their designs on a 'Greater German Reich'? http://pic.twitter.com/4w7K1T2nJy


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    3. The Germans used socialist economic policies, before retreating to a corporate cartel base. Companies like Krupp made $$$. http://pic.twitter.com/qrjXTAkp2s


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    The actual socialists who emerged after Marx wanted three things - 1. Removal of classes. 2. World socialism. 3. Distribution of capital.


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    There was a huge gap between rich & poor in Tsarist Russia. The Bolsheviks sought to eliminate this division (yes, by violent revolt). http://pic.twitter.com/PMDlS6IeGT


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    After they succeeded, the Bolsheviks wanted to take the Revolution worldwide. Heard of 'Comintern'? No race, no nations, only socialism. http://pic.twitter.com/nmHUsh4Gsv


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    As for redistribution of capital, do I really need to explain the difference between collectivisation & cartels, Mr Tax Haven?


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    So, you see, @stillgray there's a big fucking difference between fascism and socialism, in that they're COMPLETE FUCKING OPPOSITES.


    Quote Originally Posted by @MikeStuchbery_
    So, if you're peddling this 'munuhmunuh NAZIS ARE SOCIALISTS' bullshit you're either massively dense or an evil prick.
    https://www.indy100.com/article/nazi...chbery-7900001

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiny View Post
    You can't blame Antifa for the actions of someone who wasn't even part of Antifa! That's ridiculous!

    The protesters the right-wing terrorist murdered weren't even part of Antifa. Two were police officers. I guess it shows the sickening levels to which the right will stoop.
    If you're referring to the person in the challenger The no he was not anti fun nor were the people he had I'm referring to the antifa Members who showed up with baseball bats and began beating other protesters before the riot started. Most of which were dressed in all black with face masks covering their face and baseball bats with a giant flag that said antifa kind of hard not to identify them as antifa.

    But then again you know what the left says! if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it must be a cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogboy View Post
    I read in The Washington Post (or it may have been The Today Show) that this may soon stretch further into the White House and that Trump may throw his son in law under the bus. They wondered what Ivanka would think if her own father pinned the blame on his son in law? All of this is getting more interesting.
    What Mueller is doing is obviously a classic investigative move. Essentially the idea is to start from the lower ranked individuals with any felonious charges one can get on someone(in this case Papadopolous and the others that have been formally charged). Then for a lighter sentence the offender can give information about those who where above them. In this case it was specifically Jeff sessions who has in fact lied while under oath. It's getting obvious that there are traitors in this whole mess even to the general public. Please keep in mind it's also even more obvious that Mueller is controlling information about the case probably for a lot of reasons including professionalism.

    Also I'm well aware I have been gone for a while please don't ask about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange View Post
    The election hacking is just an extension of the same shit the western (US/NATO) and eastern powers (WarPac/CIS/CSTO) have been doing to each other's protectorates for decades. It's just that NATO-aligned powers have been expanding so aggressively eastwards that an increasingly desperate Russia threw a hail mary... and scored a touchdown that nobody had been planning for.
    There is more to it then that. I do agree with you though. It's getting obvious that the issue was to much money in politics. Most people did not even vote because of how obviously rigged the primaries where before the main election. It's also a fact that the DNC's funding was on life support until Hillary bought it out and funded them with campaign money. The fact of the matter is Russia simply had to be able to pay more money then Hillary did to win. I don't think the Russians "hacked" anyways considering the number of paper ballots that where not counted. Essentially Hillary supported the inherent weakness in a Oligarchy (I.E money) which the Russians took advantage of. It was a Hail Mary but one that had a high chance of success. That was the result of forcing the public to decide on 2 different kinds of people bought out by Wall street. That's why the DNC is being undermined from the ground up right now since most people in the U.S do not want money to have as much influence on elections.
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