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    Default Thinking of joining the armed forces.

    If any of you don't know by now I am a "slacker". Right now I hold no job nor have I ever had a real one and I am living off of my dad's income. Anyways I actually have no idea what I want to do anymore and I been that way for quite some time. I don't really know what to do right now and it seems I would rather be told "Do ____, do ___". I guess I'd rather follow structure then go and do my own path.

    So I been thinking about joining some part of the armed forces and I don't know which branch. However I do know I do not want to be put into a combative unit or situation. I would rather not be shipped far from home, but the odds of that happening I bet are slim.

    In any case does anyone have any advice in general for people thinking about joining the armed services?

    (Note: if I join and do get shipped off would it be possible to bring a small plushie. I'm actually serious too.)

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    I have no experience with the military, but I know that if you have any non-combative talents you should try going for those. Cooking, playing an instrument, medical care; all of these are things I would try to get into if I were forced to join the military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire2box View Post
    If any of you don't know by now I am a "slacker". Right now I hold no job nor have I ever had a real one and I am living off of my dad's income. Anyways I actually have no idea what I want to do anymore and I been that way for quite some time. I don't really know what to do right now and it seems I would rather be told "Do ____, do ___". I guess I'd rather follow structure then go and do my own path.

    So I been thinking about joining some part of the armed forces and I don't know which branch. However I do know I do not want to be put into a combative unit or situation. I would rather not be shipped far from home, but the odds of that happening I bet are slim.

    In any case does anyone have any advice in general for people thinking about joining the armed services?

    (Note: if I join and do get shipped off would it be possible to bring a small plushie. I'm actually serious too.)
    I don't think you can be quite so cavalier and call your own shots in the armed forces. When you join, you effectively become government property.

    However, do the best you possibly can on the exams, get a good MOS, go for AIT, and hopefully you'll be able to land some sort of position that won't see combat duty.

    I imagine you do not have a college degree. Given your description of yourself and where you are, I think that time in the armed forces would actually be better spent than time in college at this point.

    I hope that you've talked with your dad. I think this is the right decision in your life (again, given this little bit I know about you) and I had a friend for whom the Army opened up a new world of opportunity. He was a 51-tango (combat engineer, I think), earned his mosquito/jump wings (for the extra pay each month), but he went in as an E4 ("Specialist") with his B.Sc. He served Stateside under a full-bird colonel and was a driver (wherever the officer went, my buddy drove him) as well as a planner (figuring out how to build bases, etc.).

    All in all, it was a great gig, BUT he described the physical rigors of boot camp as "Boy Scout Camp". That jerk could run and run forever. I've never joined any Armed Service, but plenty of folks I have known have been through and got the t-shirt.

    I would advise the following plan:
    • Tell your dad your plans now;
    • Train hard for the next 4 months. Focus on stamina and change-up your exercises and runs;
    • After 4 months, if you still feel the same, study for your exams and go sign up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Point Blanch View Post
    I have no experience with the military, but I know that if you have any non-combative talents you should try going for those. Cooking, playing an instrument, medical care; all of these are things I would try to get into if I were forced to join the military.
    I did want to be a clinical psychologist or something to that extent but that might just be due to having talking with them for nearly my whole life. I have talked to my dad about it and with everything else he takes everything like "okay", nothing phases that guy. Only time I can recall seeing him cry is when my sister died and when I told him her death can be considered his fault.

    My mom doesn't seem to like the idea very much at all. My sister joined the marines but died in a accident even before she got to basic. My older brother is the only one who got into college but I am not sure if he ever got a degree, in any case even he doesn't have a job right now. But he always keeps going and always keeps looking up even if he suffers from bouts of depression.

    Also right not exercise and just getting in shape seems to be a great idea, in general. Oh and thank you for the comments, they really have helped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire2box View Post
    I did want to be a clinical psychologist or something to that extent but that might just be due to having talking with them for nearly my whole life.
    This sounds like something that you'd have to have prior training to do.

    I'd advise looking up the code/designation (e.g. "51T") and then seeing what is required to land the position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire2box View Post
    If any of you don't know by now I am a "slacker". Right now I hold no job nor have I ever had a real one and I am living off of my dad's income. Anyways I actually have no idea what I want to do anymore and I been that way for quite some time. I don't really know what to do right now and it seems I would rather be told "Do ____, do ___". I guess I'd rather follow structure then go and do my own path.

    So I been thinking about joining some part of the armed forces and I don't know which branch. However I do know I do not want to be put into a combative unit or situation. I would rather not be shipped far from home, but the odds of that happening I bet are slim.

    In any case does anyone have any advice in general for people thinking about joining the armed services?

    (Note: if I join and do get shipped off would it be possible to bring a small plushie. I'm actually serious too.)
    I will give you some advice. I was in the army, a long time ago. First of all decide what kind of job you beforehand, not necessarily what job, but what kind. Just about any civilian job has a counterpart in the military, and in some cases the same requirements. In other cases the military will train you to do the job, including some that would normally require a college degree.

    If you want a good high tech type job, I would recommend either the air force or navy. If you join the navy make sure that you get a guaranteed job, otherwise you will end up with what ever they want or need at the time.

    Your chances of staying in the US aren't very good. Your chances of ending up in a combat zone if you do not have a combat MOS aren't very good either. Your chances of being killed are slim. If you have a noncombat job, your chances of injury or death are really slim.

    There is a Mental Health specialty for enlisted personal.
    68X--MENTAL HEALTH SPECIALIST
    4C0X1 - MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE

    Army Enlisted Jobs -- Main Menu
    There is a list of army jobs.
    Air Force Enlisted Job Descriptions and Qualification Factors
    and Air Force.

    The Navy has always confused me on how their jobs work though.

    h3g3l has some good advice, and I would second it. If you are not in shape, get in shape even if all you do is run or even bicycle around. You don't have to worry much about strength, stamina is way more important.

    Bringing a small plushie will not be a problem no matter where you are stationed. But you will have to be prepared for questions and some ridicule. You won't be able to hide that you have it. And don't even try to bring it to basic training.

    You wouldn't believe what some people bring with them. I did feel a bit sorry for the woman whose vibrator got turned on at the bottom of her duffel bag. They had to cut off the lock and empty it out to find out what was buzzing in there. The bag was repacked, with the vibrator on top with a note on the removal of batteries to keep some things secret.

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    Well, i wouldn't bring the plushie to boot. Or follow on training for that matter. When I was in A-School we had a guy in the barracks that was a furry. Now I'm an open minded kinda guy, but many of the guys in barracks were not. It didn't help that he got caught wearing his cat tail in uniform. I think he had some other issues, because he never even made it out of Great Mistakes, they tossed him out. It really kinda sucks, but I went completely dormant on the DL front for the first 5 years I was in. Only then did I have a place of my own where I could play in private.

    But besides all that, the military has been a pretty good gig for me. I got to be stationed overseas, see a lot of the world, and I have a job that I can't get laid off from. If you arn't looking to walk around with a rifle, I'd look hard at the Navy or the Air Force. I can't speak to how hard core the Air Scouts are, but we generally mock the superman types in the Navy. And Navy jobs are not hard to figure out. Your job title is your job title. Yes, we only have 42 of them, but ratings are not as restricted as MOSs or other jobcodes. If you are an Electronics Technician in the Navy, you'll work or all kinds of stuff, like radios, radars, computers(navy computers, not PCs). If you are an F-16 Avionics Tech in the AF you'll work on F-16 Avionics (so I've been told, correct me if I'm wrong).

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    I think the Army was one of the better parts of my life, despite being in for a very short time (Medical out of OSUT the week of FTX grrr.) Anything you bring with you to basic you will have taken from you. They will provide a structure. Personally I have never been in a more supportive environment, but it's not a type of support you're used to finding in the civilian world. You will be brought down to tears.

    That being said. If you're not ok deploying, don't join.
    If you're not ok being shot at, don't join.
    If you're not ok working under preasure, don't join.
    If you're not ok being yelled at, and told you're the most worthless piece of crap on the planet, don't join.

    If you can accept all of those, then take a look at it. It's one of the better things I ever did.

    -- Thad.

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    My dad got in the navy by choice when he was drafted and he never saw any real action. So I guess that could be a good choice for not combative deployment, not to mention everything in the middle east is land locked, right? :P

    Anyways as for the plushie it would most likely get in my way at basic or get lost or stolen on deployment.

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    I was in the Navy for 9 years as a Nuclear Electronics Technician.

    For not seeing action, join the Navy or Air Force. If you join the Navy don't be a Corpsman (Medic) or CB (Seabee, or Construction Battalion) they can be on shore with the Marines. The advantage of the Navy is that advancement (i.e. the money you'll make) is easier than the that of the Air Force.

    If I had to do my enlistment again, I'd join the Air Force. But, from what I heard, it's hard to advance because nobody wants to leave the service. To me this is a sign that the people are treated well. The Air Force is the only branch that I've heard of that has actually kicked people out because thay haven't met the advancement/time requirements (IIRC you must make E-6 to stay in for 20 years and retire).

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