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    Oh another thing that bothers me about windows 10, is when it comes to computer illerate people being on the same network.

    Everytime a windows 10 machine updates (usually the same time) the internet literally kills itself due to one of the machines using 100% of the bandwidth on a update, It's gotten to the point I've timed. xD I actually end up banning the mac address off the computer etc. but man it's hard explaining to a computer illiterate person there laptop updating is killing the network.

    Get this, everytime a windows 10 machine goes on the network, and it updates, bam 10 kbps internet.

    stops updating, after a couple hours, 3mbps again.

    that's how i know a pc is updating xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxx View Post
    LOL. Umm... no. I'm talking about the big dark vagueness just out of view in the murk at my level. Sometimes a grouper, but there's a noticeable difference in shape between shark and grouper, even when obscured.
    It's just your imagination. :P You are seeing things you want to see. All of them are just tiny fish. You may come across a time when they are in a group and they look like a shark to you. BTW .. this analogy is so weird and silly to me. XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarchinBunny View Post
    It's just your imagination. :P You are seeing things you want to see. All of them are just tiny fish. You may come across a time when they are in a group and they look like a shark to you. BTW .. this analogy is so weird and silly to me. XD
    You should be used to weird analogies from me by now..... Sad that I can't transfer the mental images of some ocean or Great Lakes dives to show you. Even in fresh water... at night, or when you're deep enough that surface light doesn't penetrate... The head of a fish appears in the beam from your dive light, then disappears, and you watch the body go by, then the tail finally shows up. Spooky.

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    This article (and video) explains why privacy is important:
    http://lifehacker.com/why-your-priva...nyt-1645884650



    Privacy is absolutely vital in preventing governments from targetting dissidents. Our societies may be relatively free, but perhaps that won't always be the case. And it's certainly not the case everywhere. In some cases, people's lives are at stake from the data their devices leak.

    We shouldn't allow this kind of mass-surveillance to go unchallenged. Have you read Orwell's "Nineteen Eighty-Four"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiny View Post
    This article (and video) explains why privacy is important: -snips-
    Actually, I have watched this video before and think I may even have commented on it at one point lol. But I am rewatching it just so I can rebuttal some of the points.
    He says people who say they do not care about privacy, they actually do. Such as putting locks on doors. That right there is just a fallacy as there is more than one reason why you would put a lock on a door and that reason for me isn't privacy. It's more about I don't want my shit stolen and it's a safety precaution. He would have been better off pointing to people putting curtains on windows. But even then a lot of people just do that for looks and design. Many people keep their windows wide open for anyone passing by to be able to see.

    Now when we are talking specifically about bedrooms and bathroom, that has a lot to do with ... well, I don't want anyone walking in when im naked or taking a shit. Totally different circumstances lol. Yes, that is about privacy, but it's a totally different type of privacy. It's not about that you are doing something you don't want other people to know you are doing. Just by being in the bathroom we all know what the person is likely doing. The time frame of which they were in the bathroom also tends to suggest what they were doing.

    The other issue I see here is this guy is talking about actual privacy in real life and comparing it to the type of privacy you have online. These are very different things. You can only monitor so much through the net, and really that is mainly what you are viewing. It's not like you have random people peeking in through your window. There are no visuals on exxactly what you are doing. You could be viewing a porn site, and technically it's not like they can see you jerking off behind the screen. This guy keeps pulling up real world examples, mainly because people actually care about real world privacy. I care about privacy when it comes to the real world. Actual eyes on me, random people. Obviously I don't want to be seen walking around in a diaper. But again, the internet isn't doing that.

    Then he goes onto passwords and this is the same crap with locked doors. This isn't about privacy, it's about security. His examples are absolute garbage. Obviosuly I am not just going to give my password out, that is just stupid and it has nothing to do with privacy. Also, we are talking about the difference between a person that is quite literally looking at your stuff, and a machine that only records down useful stuff for advertising. There isn't a human behind those computers at microsoft looking at everything you do or recording every single detail that is unnecessary.

    The reason I am not concerned about all this crap is because I am not paranoid about what it is they plan to do with the information because I already freaking know what they do with the information and I know what they CAN and CANNOT do. They also don't publish any information they collect publicly. Like this guy is suggesting to look in your email and then publish whatever it is he wants to publish. He is using extreme examples that no one is actually doing, and there is no indication such a thing will ever occur.

    I will continue watching and update this if I feel it needs to be ... but that is what I have to say about his arguments. To me they are stupid and have absolutly nothing to do with what we are actually talking about here. That kind of violation of privacy he is talking about isn't what is going on here.

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    Like I said, the main issue is when the government control the infrastructure. How would dissidence be possible?

    Just think about it. The erosion of privacy is a threat to democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiny View Post
    Like I said, the main issue is when the government control the infrastructure. How would dissidence be possible?

    Just think about it. The erosion of privacy is a threat to democracy.
    Can you give me an example?

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    On my Windows 10 youtube is working only on Internet Explorer (In Opera youtube crash everything...)And there is no fix for this. I even reinstall my system!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarchinBunny View Post
    Can you give me an example?
    Think of all the countries in the world where the state control (directly or indirectly) telecommunications infrastructure. Think of all the countries in the world where free speech can result in imprisonment or "disappearance". Consider how easy it is for governments to monitor internet traffic.

    It's vital that the internet delivers what it promised: freedom and equality for all people.

    Freedom of expression, and freedom of information is fundamental in our fight against oppressive regimes.

    Information is power. We must be free to use it without fear of monitoring from corrupt, manipulative forces.

    Perhaps our governments aren't interested in such oppression (for now), or perhaps you don't want to be a journalist, a dissident, recording the truth in a future dystopia. But others are (or will be) in such situations. Privacy is important on a moral basis. If not for ourselves, then for others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiny View Post
    Think of all the countries in the world where the state control (directly or indirectly) telecommunications infrastructure. Think of all the countries in the world where free speech can result in imprisonment or "disappearance". Consider how easy it is for governments to monitor internet traffic.

    It's vital that the internet delivers what it promised: freedom and equality for all people.

    Freedom of expression, and freedom of information is fundamental in our fight against oppressive regimes.

    Information is power. We must be free to use it without fear of monitoring from corrupt, manipulative forces.

    Perhaps our governments aren't interested in such oppression (for now), or perhaps you don't want to be a journalist, a dissident, recording the truth in a future dystopia. But others are (or will be) in such situations. Privacy is important on a moral basis. If not for ourselves, then for others.
    Honestly, this sounds like an overreaction. Hey ... if I actually see this occur ... I will agree with you. Till then, it just sounds like a lot of worrying about absolutely nothing.

    Also if the government wanted to do that sort of thing now or at any time ... nothing could stop them. Even if you complain about it now ... if the government wanted to do that, they would just do it. I mean let's be realistic here. As long as they are not doing it now ... then there is nothing to really say. If they start to do it, well then we can complain about it then. But until then ... worrying is pointless.

    Even if you manage to get all companies to start respecting privacy a bit more, it's not going to prevent that from happening if the government was looking to do that.

    Until it actually happens you don't have a leg to stand on.

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