Actually Incontinent?

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mikejames said:
I NEVER said "most" people here are faking it. You literally made that up.

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mikejames said:
I suspect the vast majority on this site are just faking it.

If anything, "vast majority" would suggest higher percentage of people than "most". I'm actually giving you the benefit of the doubt here.
 
INTrePid said:
To quote from your original post:


If anything, "vast majority" would suggest higher percentage of people than "most". I'm actually giving you the benefit of the doubt here.
I answered to this a few posts back. I hadn't remembered writing that. I exaggerated saying vast majority but I maintain and believe there are plenty of fakers on here.

Either way this whole thing has gotten misconstrued and out of hand. I was simply surveying the group to see if any of the other truly incontinent people notice this and are sick of it. Plenty clearly are, some others chose to get all butthurt about it.
 
I think we just have a lack of perspective going on in this thread. You want to know what's worse than being incontinent and having to deal with DLs? Being a DL and having to deal with incontinence. Sure, on the surface it may sound like you're getting what you want, but as is so often in life, it just doesn't work out like that.

For you, you developed a problem and pragmatically sought a solution to it. You're obviously unhappy with your condition, as anyone would be, and questioning why anyone would want to fake it, which I'd agree is naturally the reaction to expect. With my experience though, I've been a DL since I can remember. Don't know why, don't think I ever will - but I never wanted to become incontinent. I was completely happy indulging in diapers on the side, a little here or there, keeping it totally to myself. Then, during a time when I hadn't indulged the DL side of me for quite some time, I started to have serious urges to urinate that left little time to hit the bathroom, slowly getting worse, leading to leaks. I went to a urologist, and after 4 months of tests (including a urodynamic test, which was one of the most unpleasant medical experiences of my life), they diagnosed me with a number of different symptoms (urinary retention, delayed sensation, nocturnal enuresis, the list goes on). The medication they prescribed had gnarly side effects, with only a moderate primary effect. Not worth it. I can make it to a toilet a good amount of times in a day, but if I'm in a store, on public transit, or the bathroom is busy, I will involuntarily wet myself. It's humiliating and degrading.

Why? Shouldn't I love that being a DL? Not really, and I'll tell you why. For some, being a DL is a fetish, for others it's a comfort, for me it's the former. None of these really apply in the professional world, or when going out with some friends, etc. Picture this: big boss summons you to his office to discuss your latest project - in the middle of discussing it, you get a serious urge and two minutes later end up wetting yourself. It's a fact of the condition - but you can't help feeling embarrassed, as you used to get off on it, and now you're doing it in front of a big boss? Every time it happens, I second guess myself. Could I have run to the bathroom and made it? Maybe, maybe not. Am I just doing this for jollies? I don't really need to wear diapers, right? Then, I'll have a dry spell for a day or two when my bladder decides to cooperate, I'll go without, and end up wetting my pants while walking down Main St in my town.

In my mind, you're luckier than I, as you never need second guess yourself. Yes, I agree it's a strange thing to wish for a medical disability as some here might, but as long as no one gets hurt, live and let live I say. I came to ADISC to get different perspectives after all of this happened to me, because it was driving me crazy. Now, I'm much more relaxed with it, although it still is in the back of my mind.
 
Incontinent here.

Grew up with a weak bladder and the embarrassments that go with it. This caused an interest in diapers from a young age. Mid life I had a terrible neurological meltdown... one of the symptoms being a severe neurogenic bladder. It took nearly 20 years to get a proper diagnosis of my neuromuscular disorder. Until I was properly diagnosed, I went through a lot of bad situations with medical professionals, one of which was being harassed about my bladder issues. Only after getting a proper diagnosis for my neuromuscular condition, and then getting prostate cancer that plugged me into an excellent urological oncologist, did I get proper testing and diagnosis of my bladder issues. Now I'm also dealing with chronic colitis from salvage radiation for recurring prostate cancer.

I came to terms with my incontinence through the support of a loving family. I got support from a few others during the early days of the internet. I use ADISC for keeping abreast of the best diapers available, which changes constantly, and to help out the few who reach out with reasonable questions.
 
Hi, sorry I jumped in so late, but living at the collision point of 2 worlds here. Yep, I'm both. I'm palsied. CP is the world's most common birth brain enjury. The thing is, if the brain my body is attached to wasn't injured, I'd be continent. I've had the same brain all my life, and the same spastic muscles, very few of which even tremor. Point is, I'm one of those people who's incontinence can be best described as, "Normal disabled life, punctuated by :mad::cursing::censored:!" The incontinence isn't complete, nor do I want it to be. Why? Mine hurts! I'm one of those people who has okayish control, unnnnntil I don't. I'm also one of those people that, since I'm also AB/Little, I'd make you wonder. May I walk you through my day? I'll be the one pushing the giant wheeled hunk o' metal right beside you:lol:.

Fear treats me weird. If I fall, fear could make the sphincter close, and I'll stay dry, or make the bladder clamp down and I'll go. The important thing to understand is, it takes just as much muscle coordination to get it out as it does to keep it in, and depending on how my muscles are misbehaving, I could make it to the toilet, and be wishing I could go, or not, and be cursing my birth.
I drink coffee when I feel my bowel don't wanna work, and eat certain stuff to get them going. I avoid even the foods I really like when I feel things are going to go the other way. I don't drink nearly enough most days. When I was biolittle, no one ever sat any of my caretakers down, and said, "Her bladder and bowels are muscles, and since her others don't work, they'll run away from her from time to time." I'm with PlotTwist on the second guessing. That's what happens when you get old enough to read the medical literature on CP, but grew up with people who didn't flipping bother!

"Am I really having a bad day, or am I just being lazy?" And good days are even worse. "Is it really a good day, or am I dehydrated?"

Most people with control issues, "bathroom map." I don't, because I don't get out enough to justify it. I, "food and drink map." Anything carbonated, or highly acidic juices, I drink in the morning. If I don't, I stay in my chair until as late as 3, because if not, let's count the movements.

1. Covers off.
2. From lying to sitting-- This one involves a lot of muscles tightening, because I can't sit straight up. I have to roll to my left side, and push up to sitting, like a pregnant woman, so, even though I don't pee in my sleep, a wet bed is a possibility, just because of the muscles that have to tighten, and they all seem connected. I sh** you not. Using my arms can make my abdomen tighten.
3. From sitting on the bed, to sitting in my chair.
4. Bedroom to bathroom.
5. Boost pants down.
6. Danger Will Robinson, danger, not to mention high leak risk!-- chair to toilet.

Now, understand, I have to be out of the pain of a bladder or bowel spasm to be able to make any of those movements, so, I actually have to move slower and just wait until I'm between spasms.

One thing that chaps my ass about ADISC, and it's damn near the only thing, so calm down. I love y'all. There seems to be this misconception about incontinence, that bladder or bowel weakness isn't incontinence, and that to be incontinent at all means diapers, period. Not true. I don't manage mine that way. Laundry gets done a lot though.

I've heard incontinent people on here ask if they should bring diapers with them to an event of whatever sort, because they're genuinely worried about leaks, and others have said, "Well, you're incontinent, aren't you," as if a normal just parked in the handicapped parking spot, and I just wanna be like, "He or she is leaking. The muscles are weak! It's mild, but it's there!"
 
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Really well said. Incontince is complicated. I have CP too. Bladder spasms are literally the worst. I can deal with the pee, but the pain sucks. It's frustrating feeling fine one miniute and all of the sudden my bladder is like "Surprise you are in an unbelievable amount of pain AND you just peed all over yourself too" Some days I'm fine no accidents, some days I have a bunch of accidents. Personally even though I'm not the biggest fan of diapers (I feel like they uphold the societal stereotype that we are child-like) they do make life easier, I don't really have to think about the IC I can just do life.
I feel like as long as everyone is supportive, and understands where something is being posted there won't be problems.
 
CP1234 said:
Really well said. Incontince is complicated. I have CP too. Bladder spasms are literally the worst. I can deal with the pee, but the pain sucks. It's frustrating feeling fine one miniute and all of the sudden my bladder is like "Surprise you are in an unbelievable amount of pain AND you just peed all over yourself too" Some days I'm fine no accidents, some days I have a bunch of accidents. Personally even though I'm not the biggest fan of diapers (I feel like they uphold the societal stereotype that we are child-like) they do make life easier, I don't really have to think about the IC I can just do life.
I feel like as long as everyone is supportive, and understands where something is being posted there won't be problems.
Yeah, and consider this. The urge to go is the only pain with readymade shame attached to it.
 
Not much talk about the pain that can accompany bladder issues. Bladder spasms hurt really bad when they happen. But the pain from severe retention is much, much worse. Nothing like riding in an ambulance, howling like an injured animal, to get an emergency catheter placed and then spending a few hours having tests run to determine if there was kidney damage as a result. Those are the times that helped put wearing diapers in perspective.
 
I'm not sure if I may be an example of what you're talking about here.

So, I'm primarily DL. I have IC issues that are intermittent and often not convenient for me, Basically, I have OAB which can be triggered by anxiety. So, most of the time it's fine and I'm just a furry DL and wear when I want to, and deal with some minor leakage issues, and sometimes have to wear pads for that... but when it flares up I can't go without full protection. I can literally feel like I have a bursting bladder 24/7 no matter how much I try to relieve it. And it's impossible not to let it dribble what little it has. Constantly.

That's not fun for me, and I try to drum up my DL side to help me cope with it.
 
Been offline for a couple of weeks, so I'm just seeing this now.

I'm sure there are some fakers, though I doubt it is a large number to be honest. (Maybe I'm just naïve.) But honestly, there's not a lot of reason for someone to fake incontinence here. There are plenty of forums for ABDL issues, all of which connect to diapers and most to wetting them; invading this one is not necessary. And if you want to, you can just post, as many have stated; you don't need to fake incon to do it. If you want to imagine yourself incon, the fiction forum would probably work better. Truly I don't see where the thrill would come from.

As for me, well as many of you are aware I was diagnosed OAB and urge incontinent at about the same time I joined ADISC; in fact my new incontinence was what brought me here. The world of 24/7 diapers took a lot of getting used to, but I had a baptism of fire (of sorts) in that I had a three week trip to Europe scheduled with my two daughters shortly after my diagnosis. Someone mentioned how much room diapers take up in a suitcase while traveling...no kidding! And three weeks' worth, too. I had to bring (and pay for) an extra bag. If I'd been staying in America I'd have been more comfortable buying as I went, but I was not sure about various places in Europe. As it was I ran out a week before the end and needed to impose on a friend I was staying with to help me find some replacements. As I said: baptism of fire. But I made up my mind from the start: this is a medical issue, so I would not be embarrassed to tell people if I had to. And I did, when necessary, starting with my kids.

If there are people here faking incon, well, I suppose they have their reasons. All I know is that it makes no sense to me.
 
Totally incontinent here. Malformed sphincter muscle at the base of my bladder which is believed to have been caused by large doses of prednisone that was given to me for a lung infection at birth.
 
I think for a lot of people, they had issues as a kid, which lead to them being a DL. Then as an adult, it is something that comes back.

I would put myself in that camp. As a kid I definitely had a lot of "accidents". Eventually I realized that I need to use the bathroom a lot more than others needed to. Then that developed me into a DL - as a kid I remember wanting diapers just so I wouldn't have to worry about always having to find a bathroom.

Now, in my late 20s, I'm starting to have urge issues. It's really sucks and it has been getting worse the last few months. Maybe it's the colder weather? Seems the last few days I'll get out of the warm car and get into the cold and I had better find a bathroom and QUICK!

No I have not seen a doctor, I probably won't unless it gets really bad. I just don't trust primary care physicians or so-called specialists.
 
severe urge incontinence here. I have seen a 2 urologists. 1 thinks its neurological while the other says its my muscles aren't all that strong. Had CT scans, cystoscopys and tried numerous medication. Nothing has worked. I am defiant and only wear diapers if I absolutely have too. Which is becoming more and more frequent. I have tons of them, but I just don't wear them except to bed. I also have a bunch of psych issues too and some of the meds I am on also attribute to my urge incontinence. Matter of fact I left town and went to my friends house for the week, didn't bring diapers. Well guess what happened. Yup. Now my roommate is bringing me down a couple bags to get me through the xmas week. Hope everyone is well.
 
Used to take incontince meds, they only slightly reduced my bladder spasms. Finally after I did some research and found out that the problem was never going to go away I decided to stop taking them and wear diapers more. That was a hard decision. I didn't like to accept that because of my disability I can't toilet myself without a diaper, and possibly someone changing me. Took me a while to get there, but slowly the problem has become a normal part of my life. It's not easy being a diaper dependent young adult but at least what comes out is contained. I'm a lot less embarassed knowing that.
 
I've been actually incontinent for six years now ever-since being diagnosed with a weak bladder and having been confirmed with having neurological damage to the lower part of my body caused by past epilepsy, I know there's a difference between people who are incontinent and those that wish they were, in my case I all happed without any warning in 2010 and I have to wear diapers virtually all of the time because I can't guarantee when I will have a good or bad day or mont.

Yes I am trying to un-potty train myself but this I because I am done with fighting with my body but this doesn't mean that I am faking it all or lieying as I have very little control over my bladder and I am constantly having to buy my diapers because I don't qualify for them on the NHS at this time although next year when I move into care for my other disabilities I will be re-assessed by a new team pf doctors who hopefully know what there doing this time around, I will also try and see a shrink/psycologist about my continued issues with ptsd left over from years of physical and mental torture at the hands of those who betrayed me for no good reasons, I don't want to use the word bulling because it is too soft a description for what I went through my whole life.

I also have ptsd following witnessing the death of a man who was killed by a drunk driver in 2010 when he was a at a pedestrian crossing on a dangerous road, please don't judge me as I don't think I will like anyone who calls me a fake in life because they don't believe me without knowing me in person I had that all my life as well and it's as bad as bullying.

Yours sincerely
Chinababy888.
 
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For the last 2 nights I went to bed wearing a clean dry diaper and plastic pants. I woke up in the morning with a wet bed and a saturated diaper. I have no recollection of wetting, usually at night I know when I'm about to pee, but now no warning, pressure or anything. Am I becoming incontinent? I wear diapers or Depends 24/7.
 
If I can throw my opinion in here

I think a lot of those people in question (those you don't think are actually incontinent) are actually suffering from some sort of control problem, but they find comfort in diapers. Which there is nothing wrong with that
 
I cant really say I enjoy being incontinent but I dont hate it, I wet the bed my entire childhood and though my parents shunned me for it I never saw anything wrong with needing to wear a diaper to bed until I was a teenager, at that time I came to loathe that shiny blue package of goodnites and the stale pee smell in my room. I was over 15 when it stopped but still wore a diaper any time i slept in a bed that wasnt mine and sometimes when I was in mine because I was paranoid it would happen again. Fast forward to the summer after I turned 17 I was fallen on by an engine I had just rebuilt and started wetting myself again day and night and at that time I really hated diapers with a passion but the girl I was dating at the time pretty much told me to man up and deal with it like a grown up, at the time I thought that statement was pretty asinine but I am glad somebody had the guts to say it or I may still be wallowing in self pity. Since then my incontinence has progressed to the point of me having to wear diapers 24/7 for the last 10 or so years, luckily I only suffer urinary incontinence and I could probably get away with pull ups or pads but I like a snug fit which is impossible to get with either of those and pull ups are such a hassle to change and generally not trustworthy I stick with tape on adult diapers. Today I can say I am ok with wearing diapers and have learned to embrace it from a practical standpoint, I can even say I enjoy wearing some of the abdl specific diapers I figure if I have to wear them anyway I may as well wear something that is fun and not so medical looking. I dont mean to make it sound like its all sunshine and lollipops because as someone else said its a pain in the posterior to make sure you always have a change with you ( I have 3 in each vehicle I own, 6 in my toolbox at work, 3 in my duffle bag with a change of clothes and 1 in my lunch box) and then when you go on vacation you have to have 1 suit case for clothing and a whole other larger one just for diapers, not to mention being intimate with my wife who is very supportive by the way but the sound of those tapes coming off and the thought of giving my wife and the bed we sleep in a golden shower kinda kills the mood for me. My point of this very long winded post (sorry) is that incontinence is part of some of our lives and we must choose to rule it instead of allowing it to rule over us, life is way too short to let something so trivial break our stride, sure it can be a royal pain and a financial burden but none of us should allow incontinence to "Rain on our parade" Thanks for listening everybody!
 
Incontinent due to cancer surgery. I wish I had the choice to wear or not.
 
It's fair to remember, that the forum-desciption is AB/DL/IC Support, AB/DL being first, so I guess it cannot be surprising that there are fetishist here - myself included. That said, folks (fetishists) expressing a wish to become incon are most likely expressing a fantasy on their behalf, and as it is with many fetish fantasies they have little to do with reality - and shouldn't necessarily have. I understand it can be annoying to constantly read such fantasies, and yes I agree fully, the Incontinent forum section should be a separate chapter - not a sub-forum to Diaper talk.
 
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