What is this world coming to.

[teddy564339]

Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura

This is absolutly discusting; I'm happy the boy that was shot is ok. I blame two things on this. 1) Rap music and 2) the paretns. All I ever see now are rappers talking about shooting people and having sex, something really needs to be done. Then there's the parents, parents arn't watching there kids close enough.

I don't know if I should really get into a conversation about the causes of something like this, since it's such a sensitive subject.

But...while I agree with you about parents being at fault, if you're going to blame rap music, then you might as well blame violent movies and video games as well. Violent rap has been around since at least the early 90's, probably some in the 80's. If a rap song is going to influence violence among kids, then I think GTA games where they can actually emulate criminal acts would influence them just as easily.

But I still think it boils down to parents more than anything else. There are plenty of people who have watched violent movies, played violent video games, and listened to rap music since they were little kids who think this is just as horrible as anyone else.

[Night]

Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura

This is absolutly discusting; I'm happy the boy that was shot is ok. I blame two things on this. 1) Rap music and 2) the paretns. All I ever see now are rappers talking about shooting people and having sex, something really needs to be done. Then there's the parents, parents arn't watching there kids close enough.

I can't blame the parent yet because even though you have the nicest, caring parent in the world, the kid might still grew up doing this type of stuff...As for blames rap music on this, how do you know that the kid listen to rap music? It seem these days that people are using music, video game, t.v., movies, etc. as a scapegoats for the problem in the world. Back during the columbine shooting, they were blaming Marilyn Manson music for shooting...I listen to rock, rap, etc. music and I never went to my school and shoot someone, hell I got out of school early then everyone else because I have enough credits and I also graduated from my school as well.

Even though I done some dumbass stuff before like stealing from a store or smoking pot, I don't blame the music that I listen to or anything. It my fault that I did that stuff not my parent or anything. Just in this case, it was the kid fault that he shoot that other kid, no one told him to do it or anything.

[teddy564339]

Originally Posted by Eddy

I can't blame the parent yet because even though you have the nicest, caring parent in the world, the kid might still grew up doing this type of stuff...

Even though I done some dumbass stuff before like stealing from a store or smoking pot, I don't blame the music that I listen to or anything. It my fault that I did that stuff not my parent or anything. Just in this case, it was the kid fault that he shoot that other kid, no one told him to do it or anything.

I agree with you in some ways and in some ways I don't.

First of all, I do agree that lots of kids from "good" families do things like drink, smoke pot, and maybe even minor theft and things of that nature.

I also agree that it is possible for kids from "bad" families can turn out to be wonderful people, just like kids from "good" families can end up doing things like this.

But...that is the exception. It is much more likely for a kid to do something like this if he/she has parents who have gotten too caught up in work or other things instead of truly getting to know their kids and spend time with them.

I'm not saying parenting is an easy job. I don't have kids, and I know that as of right now I'm not ready to.

But...when you do decide to have kids, that is a responsibility, and to at least some degree you are responsible for what they do. In general, the more parents truly love their children, spend time with them, and teach them the right things, the more likely it is that the kids will turn out okay (not perfect, but okay).

[garnetandblack2107]

I'm really glad that you were smart enough to call 911, I myself probably would have paniced and tried to get as far away from the shooter as possible

[Pramrider]

Accolades to you, LuvsGurl, for doing the right thing. I can understand your having to get yourself together emotionally before you could even post what happened. It had to be an absolute shock to witness something horrible like a shooting. It's a distant memory now, but I remember when school students were armed with nothing more than pens, pencils, and rulers, with which to attack their academic subjects. You were really considered to be "bad" if you carried a miniature pocket knife!

You're right about the lack of info in the media. We're only two states away and didn't hear a thing on the news. Usually school shootings are well publicized. Sad to say, but I guess there wasn't enough students injured or killed to get the news reporter's and network's attention off other things going on.

~Pramrider

[LuvsGurl]

Well I supose that the reson it was not in the news that much is that it was not realy a school shooting. It was just of school grounds, across the street were all the students park at the store so not to pay for a parking tag.

Though to those that are talking about the rap I will put in this. I will blame a lot of violence on Rap and such things and here is why. In todays sosity we are all about image. Girls think they have to look like supermodels to be "normal" "sexy" or any thing that will make them popular, Boys are told from birth that they have to be tough, play football, not cry..... and when you are a young black male those people you see mostly making it to the top and being called "men" are rappers, Thug looking and always in trouble. It is not only about being Cool but about Being a "MAN". I know this, though it never makes you feel better to know about it.

[Chillhouse]

Originally Posted by LuvsGurl

The thing that made me angry is that There were other cars around me, and 3 school busses pulling out of the school. All saw what happened, though I was the only one of the 60+ people that was there to call 911.

Kids around here are even able to have Cell phones in High School though I was the only person that thought that this event needed to be reported.

Human psychology at work. A person could be murdered near a large crowd, and because there are so many people around, no one will do anything. It's been proven in tests, and it has happened in real life situations. It's the "Oh, someone else will do something else about it" mentality. It's not your problem, why should you have to worry about it?

That said, there are the few individuals out there who will go against the norm and help these people.

[gamebaby]

........Wow i would have freaked the **** out. But good thing you was calm. We have lots of that but with out guns. i dont get it.

[Mr Alex]

What kind of tests? how could you simulate that, barring matrix style virtual reality.... (?)

[Chillhouse]

Originally Posted by Mr Alex

What kind of tests? how could you simulate that, barring matrix style virtual reality.... (?)

Bystander effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The bystander effect (also known as bystander apathy, Genovese syndrome, diffused responsibility or bystander intervention) is a psychological phenomenon in which someone is less likely to intervene in an emergency situation when other people are present and able to help than when he or she is alone.
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A 1968 study by John Darley, now a professor at Princeton University's Department of Psychology, and Bibb Latane first demonstrated the bystander effect in the laboratory. They ran some simple studies such as the following: A participant is placed alone in a room and is told he can communicate with other participants through an intercom. In reality, he is just listening to an audio recording and is told his microphone will be off until it is his turn to speak. During the recording, one participant suddenly pretends he is having a seizure. The study found that how long the participant waits before alerting the experimenter varies directly with the perceived number of other participants. In some cases, the participant never told the experimenter.

Basicly, when you are the only person around to help, you feel 100% responsible for what happens. But when you are with 9 other people, you (and everyone else) only feel 10% responsible.