McCain - Palin

[Mr Alex]

I don't know If I will get repped for this or not, her policies seem to agree with mine for the most part, however, I do not want a woman as a Pres. or Vice Pres. Given McCain's age, her becoming Pres. is possible.

I'm guessing that after this post, I will get neg'd and then she will become Pres. after McCain dies, and then be the best President ever or some crap like that.

[chevre]

Why is it you don't want a woman to be president or vp? I personally think it would be a great thing, provided it's the right woman for the job.

[Darkfinn]

I just heard this one... and it doesn't suprise me... apparently her husband is one of the head honchos of Exxon.

Big oil trying to buy the election again. I just hope America isn't fooled this time.

[Mr Alex]

Probably for the same reason as I don't want women in the military, men mainly do it, and have done it well in the past, women can, and have done so as well, and perform the same, there are just less of them.

If that makes any sense, that is.

[Fire2box]

Originally Posted by Darkfinn

I just heard this one... and it doesn't suprise me... apparently her husband is one of the head honchos of Exxon.

Big oil trying to buy the election again. I just hope America isn't fooled this time.

Guess you heard wrong.

Todd Palin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh also when you hear stuff, can you list proof/links here? I would actually take a look at them if you never thought I would.

[Rance]

Originally Posted by Mr Alex

Probably for the same reason as I don't want women in the military, men mainly do it, and have done it well in the past, women can, and have done so as well, and perform the same, there are just less of them.

If that makes any sense, that is.

Saying this is like saying that Obama shouldn't be a presidential candidate because he's black. Although those are your feelings on Palin (and not ones that I'm going to say anything against, because I understand the nature of your expression), I think they're considerably unfair to future leaders, future voters, and future governmental development. I don't desire to live in a country purely fed off of the execution of primarily masculine politics.

As for being a representative of the GOP, Sarah Palin appears to be a fairly good choice to upkeep the Republican standards that McCain has so desperately been trying to get back to. This race being the bipartisan one that it is, I still think it's important that party-related identities still be recognized. Biden is the solid Democrat of Obama's race; Palin appears to be the solid Republican of McCain's. I think the choices that they made for their VPs were downright brilliant. If you attempt to be far too bipartisan, you're running the risk of losing a whole shitload of supporters, so experimenting with that mindset while still giving hardcore Dems or hardcore GOP supporters the die-hard representatives they want is really, really clever.

I like this Sarah Palin lady. Granted, I don't agree with everything she believes in, but she speaks to my heart as a respectable candidate.

What's for sure is that some aspect of change is certainly on the horizon -- either America will see their first black president, or they'll see their first female vice president. Either way, this is an historic race that I'm excited to see pan out over the next few months.

[chevre]

Originally Posted by Darkfinn

I just heard this one... and it doesn't suprise me... apparently her husband is one of the head honchos of Exxon.

Big oil trying to buy the election again. I just hope America isn't fooled this time.

That would be BP, and he is a "production supervisor" at an oil field. I'm sure he's well off for it, but I don't know that that qualifies as a "head honcho". Besides, according to wiki he worked there 18 years to earn that position. It's not like he just walked into it.

[Darkfinn]

Originally Posted by Fire2box

Guess you heard wrong.

Todd Palin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh also when you hear stuff, can you list proof/links here? I would actually take a look at them if you never thought I would.

Okay... so according to wiki until recently he worked as a head honcho for a petrolium company... what's the difference?

I would consider production manager for an entire oil field a pretty big position... guarantee you he was rakeing in the cash.

[Valentine]

Originally Posted by Jaiden

A couple of things come to mind:

1) It's a pretty obvious play to attract disaffected Hilary Clinton supporters who want a woman and also an attempted to counterbalance Obama's ownership of the fresh voice and energy stuff.

2) It seems a tad contradictory to build an entire campaign based around questioning Obama's experience and building McCain as a steady pair of hands when Palin has been a governor for just two years. How are they going to say that it's a bad thing for Obama but a positive for her?

All in all, I admit to knowing nothing about her but my first instinct is that it seems a very reactionary choice. The motives make sense but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

True she has only been governor for two years, but she was a mayor for 6 years and city councilperson for four years before that. Plus she isn't running for President, but for Vice President, that is a big difference.

Darkfinn I wouldn't call a manager a head honcho for any company. Would you consider the manager at your McDonalds a head-honcho at McDonalds?

adn.com | politics : Todd Palin unique among nation's 5 first husbands

Until recently, he earned hourly wages as a production operator in a BP-run facility that separates oil from gas and water. Palin was making between $100,000 and $120,000 a year before he went on leave in December to make more time for his family and avoid potential conflicts of interest. London-based BP is heavily involved in the gas pipeline negotiations with his wife's administration.

White-collar jobs in law, education or health care are typical among the current crop of first spouses, but Palin spent nearly 20 years as a blue-collar employee in the oil fields of the North Slope. And every summer he heads west to his birthplace in Dillingham to work the Bristol Bay commercial salmon fishery from his property on the Nushagak River.

Yep, sounds like he was a head honcho alright, and raking in the cash.

[Dethklok_still_rules]

Originally Posted by Darkfinn

Big oil trying to buy the election again. I just hope America isn't fooled this time.

The oil companies obtain and sell goods. How are they evil masterminds, exactly? Yeah, the vice president's production operator husband has a lot of pull in the global market. Evil bastards.