Discrimination against fat people?

[Thallis]

Eat less, exercise more. It WILL work in loosing weight. Don't give me that "some people are born that way" excuse, the majority of people are not, they're just lazy with bad eating habits, that's why America can have 48% of it's population be obese and France's population have less than 10%.

You're fat, not big boned.

[Abigail]

Originally Posted by Thallis

You're fat, not big boned.

There are big bonded people, still doesn't make them fat. My doctor has told me at my PRIME weight, which would be the healthiest for me, I'd be about a size 14/16. Considering a lot of girls are about a size 8.... I'd be considered "big boned"

However that doesn't mean I can use that as an excuse for being fat. I'm fat because I like chocolate, end of story. xD

[kite]

Originally Posted by Mandi

I don't care if a person is born fat, they can lose weight. There is no excuse for being fat.

there aren't excuses, per se, but there are biological differences between people such as internal glycemic levels causing peoples metabolic rate to slow and store sugars as lipids or thyroid deficiencies, etc.
i know everyone has the possiblilty of losing weight and i'm thankful for the health and fitness i've found in my loss of weight, but there are some people out there that don't fit the average mold.
makes me wonder if they're going to introduce a terrorist protection fee to any muslim passengers as another reason to extort money. meh, just add it to the list...

[Abigail]

Originally Posted by kite

there aren't excuses, per se, but there are biological differences between people such as internal glycemic levels causing peoples metabolic rate to slow and store sugars as lipids or thyroid deficiencies, etc.
i know everyone has the possiblilty of losing weight and i'm thankful for the health and fitness i've found in my loss of weight, but there are some people out there that don't fit the average mold.

You are very correct, but I don't agree with using anything as an excuse. I have a bitch of a time losing weight. I eat a whole lot healthier than a lot of people I know and I get a fair amount of exercise... I'm still not losing weight, yet I have friends who are 90 pounds and live on McDonalds.

I'm not going to cry about it though. Because I'm pretty sure if I went to the gym every day I'd be able to lose weight. I choose not to do that. There is no excuse for people to not try, and there is no excuse as to why people are fat. There may be reasons you have a hard time losing weight, there may be reasons you have that natural pear shape that's hard to get rid of... but don't blame other shit because your too lazy to get off your ass and work, actually WORK to lose weight.

[Pramrider]

I wonder if bus companies like Greyhound here in the states will follow suit? They've got to be feeling the same pinch due to fuel prices? I've been on busses with a next-seat-over passenger taking up one seat+. It wasn't the most enjoyable or comfortable trip I've ever had, that's for sure.

One thing for sure, everytime I see someone my age or older who is way overweight for whatever reason, I'm ever more determined to not let myself get in that condition.

~Pramrider

[itsme]

I don't think it is discriminatory at all. You pay for from point A to point B. If it takes twice as much fuel to get you there, I believe it is alright to charge it.

[kite]

i have a feeling that the drag associated with a unkempt plane made back in the early 80's will have more fuel wasted than someone who is over weight. why don't you people understand that it's not about fuel costs as much as it is a way to charge people a fee?

[itsme]

Originally Posted by kite

i have a feeling that the drag associated with a unkempt plane made back in the early 80's will have more fuel wasted than someone who is over weight. why don't you people understand that it's not about fuel costs as much as it is a way to charge people a fee?

As someone who is getting his private pilots license let me tell you, AVGas is not cheap. Jet fuel is even worse.

Plus, you would be surprised how much fuel consumption is increased by just a percent or two extra weight.

[kite]

Originally Posted by Mandi

You are very correct, but I don't agree with using anything as an excuse. I have a bitch of a time losing weight. I eat a whole lot healthier than a lot of people I know and I get a fair amount of exercise... I'm still not losing weight, yet I have friends who are 90 pounds and live on McDonalds.

I'm not going to cry about it though. Because I'm pretty sure if I went to the gym every day I'd be able to lose weight. I choose not to do that. There is no excuse for people to not try, and there is no excuse as to why people are fat. There may be reasons you have a hard time losing weight, there may be reasons you have that natural pear shape that's hard to get rid of... but don't blame other shit because your too lazy to get off your ass and work, actually WORK to lose weight.

oh on that note, i know exactly how you feel, but not everyone that weighs a lot is fat/out of shape. look at some of the world's strongest men that lift 1,000 lbs. and do all amazing feats of strength. they're not light by any means. so in a sense you could be charging each of them a fatness fee for someone who, i doubt, is really fat or overweight.
p.s. i'm at 190 right now. i used to be 250, then 202, and now i'm stuck at this weight but i feel good though. i can tell my body is going from fat to muscle at a decent pace and i have a feeling that's why i'm not losing any weight to speak of. some people just have high metabolisms to allow them to burn off any calories they eat (i know of two examples, one has hepatitis c and the other one, hyperglycemia), but they're not in good health. so next time any of you think of yourself as fat or overweight, but are exercising, just think of yourself as being in good health rather than a certain pants-to-self-esteem ratio.

[Charlie F]

When I catch a bus, I have to pay a double the price of my sister, say, because I'm over 16 and she isn't. But we don't claim this to be age discrimination, or at least we don't see it as a negative thing.
You might step in and point out that the bus company offer the lower price for under 16s as a discount for a valid reason (kids have less money), and that my price is the real price.
But think of the plane situation this way: The big seats are standard seats which cost the most, but people who aren't fat get a discount and get a cheaper deal (and for a valid reason, they don't need the larger seats).

So personally I think that it is discrimination, but it is justified. The word 'discrimination' carries a lot of negative connotations, usually associated with prejudice and racism and sexism, but it can be a good thing. For example women only swimming nights (One night where the swimming pool is open to women ONLY) is discrimination against males, but there's nothing wrong with it.

And I don't care if people are fat by choice (i.e. their fault) or whether it's just bad luck (genetics or that weird illness that means that you never feel full so you eat and eat and eat...). It's reasonable to discriminate in this way.