Childhood Trauma and its Effects - Page 5

Kraiden · 22-03-2008

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Also you said I am only pointing at a small percentage, well ACTUALLY the source I gave states the almost every single homosexual he has consuled had abuse that cause or contributed to their homosexuality. Which is THOUSANDS of pateints he has delt with ever since graduating from UCLA medical school in the mid 80s.

I think everyone here has showed that your "source" isn't credible.

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You actually should be happy I created this thread because not only am I helping some gays understand why they are the way they are.

Damnit dude, You're not helping anyone. You're not telling people what they don't know already, and as I've said before, It pisses me off when people who are straight act like they're the authority on homosexuality.

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Plus even more so helping straight people on here better understand that it is not a choice, like most heterosexuals say that homosexuals do is to choose to be that way.

Believe it or not, some people actually chose to become gay. Others developed that way, others were victims of abuse, etc...

**care_a_lot** · 23-03-2008

Eclipse I want to say thank you for your support that you showed in that post to me. I just let myself explode all over the page which I have never actually done before in this site. I was thinking that I would be thrown aside and told that I was screwed up and things like that. Not this lovely piece of support written with such considerosity for my situation like you wrote. All my emotions were all jumbled and I appreciate you being able to read through them and understand them.

As far as my father is concerned I believed at one point that all I wanted was an apology. Then after I told my stepmom about it, it didn't seem to matter so much anymore when I got it because I believe that it was more from her then it was from him. This is just my idea on the topic but he didn't show any signs on being even SLIGHTLY remorseful until the day AFTER I told my stepmother that's what I need to move on? I mean come on. She got to him.

I was 14 when all of this happened so that's really not that young is it? It went on for about a year and it was my parents who did it to me. I was also ALWAYS a very emotional girl so I just figure that since it was my parents and I was always really emotional that's what caused ptsd in me but I've always been curious in why not everyone who goes through this pain winds up with ptsd. Like how come I regress into being a child or baby and my wife became my mommy? My wife was always so much stronger and with a determined mindset for who she was and making sure she achieved her goals. It was physical abuse when I was 14 but here's the thing.

When I was 17 and kissed my first and last boy ever I had a flashback of my father making out with me in my head. I was 7 and he just leaned against me when I was sitting against a fence and kissed me and started touching my front. I've asked several shrinks about this and they all say that because of the vividness of the memory and the fact that I can't even have a guy HIT on me without feeling like this then it definetely happened. But the reason that I can't remember it is that my mind blanked it out? My 7 year old mind couldn't work out why this was happening and I guess that was when I stopped being able to grow older emotionally.

A lot of people have been known to be homosexual with problems that could be pointed to as "causing it" I for instance know that I could have been bisexual if not for the memories of my father making out with me every time I kiss a guy. I don't want to have a romantic night out with my lover and then when he leans towards me for a kiss I freak out. That's not fair on me and that's not fair on him. When I kiss a woman this does not happen. But not every homosexual has this kind of situation like I do. Its not always a choice. I mean take my case. I can choose to be scared of romantic situations for the rest of my life or I can have a life where I can enjoy them. Duh! What kind of an idiot would I be to pick the first option?

However there are some people whom being gay is just a natural part of their life and the way that they are. Its like the whole nurturing versus biology thing. Do you have a gay great aunt like I do? Did I get gay from her? Or was it this incident with dad that caused it? Who knows. Who cares really! I am who I am and I'm happy to be it.

**dpr_fox** · 23-03-2008

Just to break things up a bit and lighten the mood - more out-of-context quote fun!

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Originally Posted by Eclipse

where did I ever say I was right? I did not, not in the least bit.

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Originally Posted by Eclipse

when indeed I was right and knew it ever since I was being attacked (haha ayanna knew I was right about that)

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Originally Posted by Babymullet Ver 6.4

You put a thought out on a public forum, and you got a discussion back. Everything else beyond that is cake.

I guess that makes this post the cake! yum!

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Originally Posted by Ayanna

The whole world is against you because you're straight!

role reversal for the lose?

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Originally Posted by Kraiden

why the hell are we even talking about this?...Why do I care about this? Bah. I'm off to kill things. *Boots up Monster hunter*

sounds like a good idea to me

alright, so this post was just an excuse to try out some new smilies, but I will distract you from that fact with something cute:

**Eclipse** · 23-03-2008

Kraiden: I never acted as if I had authority over homosexuals. Where did I boss someone around to do something, or point fingers at someone saying this is what you are??? I never did that. Where do you get this stuff seriously? I think you are just be wwwaaayyy too sensitive about this issue, it is just that simple. This thread started out as trying to create more understanding and discussion about the topic but you turned it into as if I was trying to look down on homosexuals. I think that is pretty horrible that you would try to give me that image when it is far from the truth.

Care a lot: I am glad you could share and happy my response made you feel better! The flashbacks you described I think is awesome example of how sexual abuse can influence homosexuality. I am happy to see you are happy with yourself, I am also very happy with myself (my infantilism). Although I just feel the need to hopefully one day to figure out how and why this happens because it will help so many people in the future.

Dpr Fox: Just making sure you are aware of this, maybe you were but anyways where you quoted that I said "I was right" I was not refering to to topic of abuse contributing to homosexuality. I was refering to that I was right I was being attacked because I was straight and discussing this issue, cause when I first said that ayanna responded saying that it was not true, when indeed it is.

Kraiden · 23-03-2008

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Kraiden: I never acted as if I had authority over homosexuals. Where did I boss someone around to do something, or point fingers at someone saying this is what you are??? I never did that.

I never said you acted like you had Authority over Homosexuals, I was saying you acted like you were *the* authority on homosexuality.

And as for when you pointed your finger and went on saying "This is why you're the way you are"?

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No I am not gay, but I am trying to show that all sexual related stuff is caused by previous childhood expeirances from enviormental factors from growing up in combination with genetics.

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Which I am about to prove to everyone why it is true that sexual abuse can cause homosexuality.

Tl;Dr, you misunderstood my previous rant, If you're not gay, don't tell homosexual's how they became that way.

Humphrey Sez: Internet fight!!! *throws asthma spray at Kraiden*

Ow!

Yous are all too serimous! You need to be happier!

**dpr_fox** · 24-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Eclipse

Dpr Fox: Just making sure you are aware of this, maybe you were but anyways where you quoted that I said "I was right" I was not refering to to topic of abuse contributing to homosexuality. I was refering to that I was right I was being attacked because I was straight and discussing this issue, cause when I first said that ayanna responded saying that it was not true, when indeed it is.

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Originally Posted by dpr_fox

ust to break things up a bit and lighten the mood - more out-of-context quote fun!

All those quotes were taken out of context and put in funny ways - don't worry about it

That being said, I still find the defense that you never claimed that you were correct to be (again, completely out of context) hillarious in its own right

and just for fun, *pouncehugs Humphrey*

**Eclipse** · 24-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Kraiden

I never said you acted like you had Authority over Homosexuals, I was saying you acted like you were *the* authority on homosexuality.

Either way I still do not see how I acted that way...but okay...however you want to preceive it as, obviously I am not going to change you mind on that.

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Originally Posted by Kraiden

And as for when you pointed your finger and went on saying "This is why you're the way you are"?

HUH!? No no no, I never said anything like this. I said it could happen, it can happen. I never said this is always the case with everyone.

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Originally Posted by Kraiden

Tl;Dr, you misunderstood my previous rant, If you're not gay, don't tell homosexual's how they became that way.

Again I am not telling anything to anyone specifically, I am just throwing ideas out there.

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Originally Posted by Kraiden

Humphrey Sez: Internet fight!!! *throws asthma spray at Kraiden*

Ow!

Yous are all too serimous! You need to be happier!

I agree with Humphrey on this one. lol. Here Kraiden this is for you...

If it makes you feel any better I will be more careful with how I put things into context. Although I am not going to stop thinking up theories about how homosexuals become who they are, just like I won't for infantilists, mental disorders, ect. It's just an interest I have which is psychology. Also I do not know where you are, but where I live I have this thing called the freedom of speech.

Kraiden · 24-03-2008

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Also I do not know where you are, but where I live I have this thing called the freedom of speech.

You're on the internet. There's no such thing as freedom of speech when someone has a delete button.

Your Worst Nightmare · 24-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Kraiden

You're on the internet. There's no such thing as freedom of speech when someone has a delete button.

Ooooooooooo, snap, got you there......

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23-03-2008	#42 (permalink)
care_a_lot Lurker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: "Melbourne, Australia" Posts: 241 Threads: 15 Blog Entries: 3 Reputation: 5	Eclipse I want to say thank you for your support that you showed in that post to me. I just let myself explode all over the page which I have never actually done before in this site. I was thinking that I would be thrown aside and told that I was screwed up and things like that. Not this lovely piece of support written with such considerosity for my situation like you wrote. All my emotions were all jumbled and I appreciate you being able to read through them and understand them. As far as my father is concerned I believed at one point that all I wanted was an apology. Then after I told my stepmom about it, it didn't seem to matter so much anymore when I got it because I believe that it was more from her then it was from him. This is just my idea on the topic but he didn't show any signs on being even SLIGHTLY remorseful until the day AFTER I told my stepmother that's what I need to move on? I mean come on. She got to him. I was 14 when all of this happened so that's really not that young is it? It went on for about a year and it was my parents who did it to me. I was also ALWAYS a very emotional girl so I just figure that since it was my parents and I was always really emotional that's what caused ptsd in me but I've always been curious in why not everyone who goes through this pain winds up with ptsd. Like how come I regress into being a child or baby and my wife became my mommy? My wife was always so much stronger and with a determined mindset for who she was and making sure she achieved her goals. It was physical abuse when I was 14 but here's the thing. When I was 17 and kissed my first and last boy ever I had a flashback of my father making out with me in my head. I was 7 and he just leaned against me when I was sitting against a fence and kissed me and started touching my front. I've asked several shrinks about this and they all say that because of the vividness of the memory and the fact that I can't even have a guy HIT on me without feeling like this then it definetely happened. But the reason that I can't remember it is that my mind blanked it out? My 7 year old mind couldn't work out why this was happening and I guess that was when I stopped being able to grow older emotionally. A lot of people have been known to be homosexual with problems that could be pointed to as "causing it" I for instance know that I could have been bisexual if not for the memories of my father making out with me every time I kiss a guy. I don't want to have a romantic night out with my lover and then when he leans towards me for a kiss I freak out. That's not fair on me and that's not fair on him. When I kiss a woman this does not happen. But not every homosexual has this kind of situation like I do. Its not always a choice. I mean take my case. I can choose to be scared of romantic situations for the rest of my life or I can have a life where I can enjoy them. Duh! What kind of an idiot would I be to pick the first option? However there are some people whom being gay is just a natural part of their life and the way that they are. Its like the whole nurturing versus biology thing. Do you have a gay great aunt like I do? Did I get gay from her? Or was it this incident with dad that caused it? Who knows. Who cares really! I am who I am and I'm happy to be it.

23-03-2008	#44 (permalink)
Eclipse Regular Thread Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Age: 22 Posts: 2,142 Threads: 33 Blog Entries: 3 Reputation: 33	Kraiden: I never acted as if I had authority over homosexuals. Where did I boss someone around to do something, or point fingers at someone saying this is what you are??? I never did that. Where do you get this stuff seriously? I think you are just be wwwaaayyy too sensitive about this issue, it is just that simple. This thread started out as trying to create more understanding and discussion about the topic but you turned it into as if I was trying to look down on homosexuals. I think that is pretty horrible that you would try to give me that image when it is far from the truth. Care a lot: I am glad you could share and happy my response made you feel better! The flashbacks you described I think is awesome example of how sexual abuse can influence homosexuality. I am happy to see you are happy with yourself, I am also very happy with myself (my infantilism). Although I just feel the need to hopefully one day to figure out how and why this happens because it will help so many people in the future. Dpr Fox: Just making sure you are aware of this, maybe you were but anyways where you quoted that I said "I was right" I was not refering to to topic of abuse contributing to homosexuality. I was refering to that I was right I was being attacked because I was straight and discussing this issue, cause when I first said that ayanna responded saying that it was not true, when indeed it is.