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Old 16-11-2008   #81 (permalink)
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2: Their diaper isn't obviously tented from them being super turned on by it.
If they are a DL at all, it is likely that that would happen, depending on their level of wearing?

Everyone seems to be being to strict about this in my opinion.
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I dunno.
I might change someone's diaper, but it'd probably have to be a female whom I like.
Honestly I'll doubt that'll ever happen though.
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2: Their diaper isn't obviously tented from them being super turned on by it.
yeah, that's actually something that makes me a bit concerned about the idea of having my diaper changed by someone else. even if i wasn't attracted to them, specifically, i worry that i'd find the situation.... arousing. which would make it even more uncomfortable for both of us than it would already be otherwise.

does anyone who has actually changed someone or been changed have any words of advice on that topic?
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yeah, that's actually something that makes me a bit concerned about the idea of having my diaper changed by someone else. even if i wasn't attracted to them, specifically, i worry that i'd find the situation.... arousing. which would make it even more uncomfortable for both of us than it would already be otherwise.

does anyone who has actually changed someone or been changed have any words of advice on that topic?
As the changer: My rule of thumb is to just work around it. I mean, assuming the other person is a diaper-lover then you'd expect them to get an erection when they're in such a situation. In most cases, I've always asked beforehand if it's okay to touch and move around if I need to.

What makes me so comfortable about doing it is that it's nothing I haven't really seen before. I've seen a variety of guys naked before (in both states - attention and non-arousal) in addition to myself... so just seeing a penis is nothing new. What I think people get caught up in is the idea of touching someone else's penis, or genitals in general... to combat this, as I said above, I ask before I do/touch anything. If you both confer and understand that it's purely in a roleplaying context, then I feel that removes any awkward or sexual connotations from it.

As the changee: At first I get really excited and aroused by it; just the feeling of someone else doing things for me is what I really love about the whole experience. But don't get me wrong, initially there is quite a bit of shame and embarrassment there, but it's one of those things you just have to get over. Remember, it's all done in the context of a roleplay; it's not a sexual encounter to any degree, despite the fact I'm rather aroused by it all. But since it is a fetish as well, that's to be expected.

After a few times of doing it, the novelty and effect wears off and it starts to feel like just another uninteresting facet of life - thereby losing all the arousal to it. I know when I spend a prolonged period of time in diapers and have someone change me, the whole experience eventually loses it's spark, most likely due to the fact I'm now completely comfortable with my surroundings, the other person and the feeling of getting changed.
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yeah, that's actually something that makes me a bit concerned about the idea of having my diaper changed by someone else. even if i wasn't attracted to them, specifically, i worry that i'd find the situation.... arousing. which would make it even more uncomfortable for both of us than it would already be otherwise.

does anyone who has actually changed someone or been changed have any words of advice on that topic?
I think Lukie has described the best solution quite well. There are three steps:

(1) Get comfortable with the situation. Both the changer and the changee have to get their mind around the fact that a diaper change is a rather intimate situation. The changee will have to expose his/her most intimate parts to the changer, and not in a 'normal' situation either (like the gym shower, where the other people may get a peek at most but will otherwise make every effort not to stare and will look elsewhere). The changer on the other hand will be expected to not only stare at the changee's private parts but also expected to get pretty close to them physically or touch them.
On the other hand, neither situation is really new to either one of us. We've been changed a thousand times by parents, family members or God knows who when we were babies, and every one of us has seen enough people naked to know what naked boys/girls/men/women look like.
However, if you can't get comfortable with the fact that someone is staring at and potentially touching your private parts, or that you're expected to be that person, then a diaper change experience isn't for you.

(2) You'll have to communicate before you agree to a diaper change. The changee has to tell the changer what (s)he feels comfortable with and what the changer should not do. In addition, both parties should discuss what they expect to get out of that experience. If the changee feels sexually aroused from lying more or less helpless in front of the changer and expects sexual action, or if the changer wishes to do just that, it should be discussed before the change. Otherwise, one party may feel awkward when the other party does something they don'T want to be done, or one party feels disappointed because they didn't get what they were expecting to receive. Again, if you can't agree on common 'terms and conditions' for the change, don't do it.

(3) And finally: Compromise! Repect the other person's boundaries. This applies especially to the changer as (s)he is in a position of dominance over the changee, who's more or less lying helplessly and passively in front of him/her. Yet the changee is the person who ultimately decides, and ideally, the changer should be happy if the changee is happy, comfortable and finally in a dry diaper, just like any parent would be happy to see a smiling baby.
That may not apply in terms of a diaper change between two DLs, but then we're back at step (1) and (2) - how far would both parties go without leaving their comfort zone and did they agree on it before things started?
So...remember the CCC-idea

And for the topic at hand: My policy is to simply not deal with any issues pertaining to a changee's penis. I may wipe over it or move it aside if necessary, but when it comes to taping up the diaper, I'll just leave it where/as it is or push it down onto the belly as I hold the front of the diaper in place to tape it up. Every guy knows best which position his penis should be in to ensure that he feels comfortable and that the diaper does not leak. It's a job I cannot and will not do, so with me, every change of a guy ends with the guy sticking a hand down his diaper to adjust his penis...even if it takes a while before the erection has gone away.
So as long as the changer doesn't feel uncomfortable looking at someone's erected penis and the changee doesn't run off out of shame, it doesn't seem like that big of a problem. It's not exactly surprising for young males to get excited in the penis department when they are exposed to other people or get touched in the area. It's only natural!

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if you can't agree on common 'terms and conditions' for the change, don't do it.
No doubt your whole approach looks very "professional" but... maybe too much!

At least from my point of view - although as I said above I lack any direct practice in the field - the perspective of planning every single detail in advance makes the whole thing feel quite cold and unappealing. I mean, where's the pleasure of putting yourself in someone's hands if you have previously told him/her what they have to do step by step?

Sure, a bit of common sense should suggest people what is suitable and what is not in such a situation, but leaving the detalis to the experimentation of the moment probably makes things more natural and "interesting". This is just my personal opinion and, then, maybe trying things will make me change my mind, who knows?
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As for the ..."attention" issue while being changed...I've had 3 people change me and they were all awesome about it they just treated it like it was normal and didnt make an issue of it being stiff or not
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No doubt your whole approach looks very "professional" but... maybe too much!

At least from my point of view - although as I said above I lack any direct practice in the field - the perspective of planning every single detail in advance makes the whole thing feel quite cold and unappealing. I mean, where's the pleasure of putting yourself in someone's hands if you have previously told him/her what they have to do step by step?

Sure, a bit of common sense should suggest people what is suitable and what is not in such a situation, but leaving the detalis to the experimentation of the moment probably makes things more natural and "interesting". This is just my personal opinion and, then, maybe trying things will make me change my mind, who knows?
Definitely. I've always just gone with the flow of it.

Lets face it, it's going to be an awkward situation no matter which perspective you take of it, so that in itself is overstepping boundaries for many people. I honestly think if you can get over the first step of someone being a little dominant over you and seeing your privates, then anything that happens during the change is just second-rate in terms of being a discomfort zone.

But of course, the major thing is to use common sense! Obviously someone who's a little shy and still uncomfortable with the idea of getting changed doesn't want you to be groping them or wiping them down for extended periods of time.
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Being a guy I would have a hard time changing a guy. But I have changed a female and only when wet.I have done this on several occations.
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I'd do it. As long as I understand that the person I am changing trusts me. I would think it would be awkward if this was not the case. The same logic applies to someone changing me. It wouldn't be awkward if there was a level of trust.
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