Messing around with Port Forwarding.. - Page 2

mm3 · 01-11-2008

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My 22Mbit DSL begs to differ. Wheres your cable-god, now?

my cable-god? Well, the maximum is 30Mbits

(with 5-10Mb/s upload to go with it)

22Mbit DSL means nothing if you don't get a static IP and unblocked ports to go with it.
And, who's your ISP? I'm curious as to what service has 22Mb/s on *phone lines*. Pretty hard to believe...

Sawaa · 01-11-2008

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Originally Posted by mm3

my cable-god? Well, the maximum is 30Mbits

(with 5-10Mb/s upload to go with it)

22Mbit DSL means nothing if you don't get a static IP and unblocked ports to go with it.
And, who's your ISP? I'm curious as to what service has 22Mb/s on *phone lines*. Pretty hard to believe...

Static IP and no port blocking from the ISP end.
ISP is TPG, but pretty much every ADSL2+ ISP offers the same thing. Up to 24Mbit downstream sync, dependent on distance to the exchange. Maybe you should investigate the technology, before you find it 'hard to believe'? :P

mm3 · 01-11-2008

I found it hard to believe because I didn't think that standard RJ-11 telephone wire was capable of such speeds xP

Sawaa · 01-11-2008

Well it's got as many data wires as standard Cat5e/RJ45. Infact, you can network quite successfully with RJ11 plugs, they fit right into an RJ45 socket~

mm3 · 01-11-2008

lolwut. I don't think I can connect my PowerBook to my router right now with RJ-11.

EDIT: Just tried to back me up. Nope. And as many data wires? Check your phone, right now. I'll wait...

...

...

There's 2, right? And how many are on a standard RJ-45...?

I really don't see where you're heading with this.

Sawaa · 01-11-2008

According to the EIA/TIA standards you MUST be able to plug in a "RJ11" into a "RJ45". And you can. In-fact, there are many larger OEM PC's out there from the likes of HP and Dell that have a single RJ45 plug that you can either plug an RJ45 into for networking, or an RJ11 in for use as a dialup modem~
Comparing pinouts, while it's true RJ45 plugs have 8 pins vs 6 pins used for RJ11, Cat5E spec only requires FOUR pins to be used (Green/Green-White/Orange/Orange-White) for basic networking. Applications such as GbE and PoE use the additional pairs, but you only need pin 1/2/3/6 for Ethernet to work, and the RJ11 (which contains six wires, except in cheaply made cables which eliminate the 'unused' wires) standard provides that.
Where I'm heading is the fact that carrying information at speeds of 24Mbit is perfectly feasible on standard phone copper; so you shouldn't act like you know everything~

mm3 · 01-11-2008

I'm not acting like I know everything, thank you, i'm simply asking questions because apparently there's something I don't know.

And I am quite aware that RJ11 can fit into RJ45, The fact that most "telephone" RJ11 cables only have two pins is what led me to *ask a question* and test some things out.

chevre · 01-11-2008

RJ-11 and RJ-45 only refer to the connectors at the ends of the cables. So, saying "RJ-11 cable" really doesn't make much sense.

Sawaa · 02-11-2008

...except not, given you can use the terms to refer to the wire count; which will never be higher than the pins available in the connector~

betagame · 02-11-2008

I am having this SAME problem!! I need info for this!!!

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01-11-2008	#13 (permalink)
mm3 Metal Militia Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New York Age: 17 Posts: 1,011 Threads: 62 Gallery Uploads: 3 Wiki Edits: 3	I found it hard to believe because I didn't think that standard RJ-11 telephone wire was capable of such speeds xP

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Sawaa Regular Historical Donor Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South-east, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 395 Threads: 5 Blog Entries: 8	Well it's got as many data wires as standard Cat5e/RJ45. Infact, you can network quite successfully with RJ11 plugs, they fit right into an RJ45 socket~

01-11-2008	#15 (permalink)
mm3 Metal Militia Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New York Age: 17 Posts: 1,011 Threads: 62 Gallery Uploads: 3 Wiki Edits: 3	lolwut. I don't think I can connect my PowerBook to my router right now with RJ-11. EDIT: Just tried to back me up. Nope. And as many data wires? Check your phone, right now. I'll wait... ... ... There's 2, right? And how many are on a standard RJ-45...? I really don't see where you're heading with this.

01-11-2008	#16 (permalink)
Sawaa Regular Historical Donor Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South-east, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 395 Threads: 5 Blog Entries: 8	According to the EIA/TIA standards you MUST be able to plug in a "RJ11" into a "RJ45". And you can. In-fact, there are many larger OEM PC's out there from the likes of HP and Dell that have a single RJ45 plug that you can either plug an RJ45 into for networking, or an RJ11 in for use as a dialup modem~ Comparing pinouts, while it's true RJ45 plugs have 8 pins vs 6 pins used for RJ11, Cat5E spec only requires FOUR pins to be used (Green/Green-White/Orange/Orange-White) for basic networking. Applications such as GbE and PoE use the additional pairs, but you only need pin 1/2/3/6 for Ethernet to work, and the RJ11 (which contains six wires, except in cheaply made cables which eliminate the 'unused' wires) standard provides that. Where I'm heading is the fact that carrying information at speeds of 24Mbit is perfectly feasible on standard phone copper; so you shouldn't act like you know everything~

01-11-2008	#17 (permalink)
mm3 Metal Militia Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New York Age: 17 Posts: 1,011 Threads: 62 Gallery Uploads: 3 Wiki Edits: 3	I'm not acting like I know everything, thank you, i'm simply asking questions because apparently there's something I don't know. And I am quite aware that RJ11 can fit into RJ45, The fact that most "telephone" RJ11 cables only have two pins is what led me to ask a question and test some things out.

01-11-2008	#18 (permalink)
chevre Not your typical kid Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: US Age: 24 Posts: 941 Threads: 25 Wiki Edits: 37	RJ-11 and RJ-45 only refer to the connectors at the ends of the cables. So, saying "RJ-11 cable" really doesn't make much sense.

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Sawaa Regular Historical Donor Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: South-east, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 395 Threads: 5 Blog Entries: 8	...except not, given you can use the terms to refer to the wire count; which will never be higher than the pins available in the connector~

02-11-2008	#20 (permalink)
betagame Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bay Area Age: 15 Posts: 620 Threads: 120 Gallery Uploads: 2 Wiki Edits: 202 Blog Entries: 6 Reputation: 6	I am having this SAME problem!! I need info for this!!!