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Old 30-08-2008   #11 (permalink)
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This has been asked before, which is o.k. I can remember saying that it goes back to the Old Testament, where one is admonished for living in their own filth. It may have been one of those stoning sins. In past lives, I was always getting stoned. Then the same thing happened in the 60's. hehehe
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Thanks for everyone's comments. I guess hoping there may some kind of little known revelation of somebody in history or ancient literature that looking back now with modern-day hindsight that would have made us say "AH-HA! According to this ancient Norwegian document where the King of Outer Slobovia visited Latveria it was reported that he would often nurse from one of his concubines while making mewing noises of an infant."

I mean, in this day and age, we often hear of scholars makine some kind of informed opinion of personages of the past based on what was written by them or about them. Did Lincoln suffer from clinical depression? is the most immediate example to come to mind. I think there was a book that had come out awhile back, On the Shoulders of Giants, I think? I might be wrong, and basically it was going through kinky lifestyles of people like Aristotle, Mary Queen of Scots, etc.

I just thought that maybe someone had come up with something similar to that. Something that might have been passed of as some ancient's eccentricity, or ancient myth or fable, might actually have some kind of basis in ab behavior. For example, I could forsee some ancient Greek comedy where the main character acted like an abandoned baby to get into a rich person's hous so he could be near his daughter. To the masses, it would be an odd little comedy, something on the level of Tom and Jerry cartoon. But to those who have interest in that, could that ancient Greek playwright actually have had something else in mind?

bah, I am getting too wordy in my old age.
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As a psych major (well, neuroscience now but there's not a huge difference between the two, just one is more biologically oriented) I've come across a few studies/case reports on infantallism. The majority of them are very old by scientific standards (just about everything on the subject was written in the 1950's or earlier). I know that I've read one or two that date back to the early 1900's so the fetish has been known to science for at least a century and the research (what little there is) indicates that ABism is a rather new fetish that only came into being during the victorian era. That makes sense considering that there wasn't much about babyhood to cling to before then (no prams, highchairs, special clothes, diapers, etc). The major problem with all this research is that since the majority of it was written at least half a century ago it's all inundated with psychodynamic bullshit (so you tend to see things like "this man's infantallism developed because he was sexually insecure/underwhelming"). And in the really old stuff you tend to see a lot of moral judgements thrown in as well.

As I've already said there's little recent research on the matter. Fetishes as a whole are neglected by behavioral science, especially the more bizarre/rare fetishes like infantallism. A lot of it has to do with the trouble of finding a good participant pool and the fact that a lot of researchers can't stomach the data collection that goes into studying fetishes. Of the recent research I've seen a couple that were bad case studies. For example, one was written by a female psychodynamic psychologist who held a few sessions with a male AB who stated he was seeing her so that she would get him admitted to a hospital nursery ward. After a few sessions when she refused to do what he wanted he stopped coming which she concluded was because he saw her as a mother figure and was scared of being rejected by her like he was by his own mother. It didn't seem to occur to her that he stopped coming because he realized that she wasn't going to get him put into a nursery room at a hospital. The rest of the recent literature on the matter is nothing but descriptive research that attempted to establish various various statistics and figures about infantallists. However, I've yet to see anything that attempts to figure out how old infantallism is.
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At least to the age of Romans.

Although it wasn't sexual with the Romans, it was cultural.

When a warrior was wounded in battle to the point where he could no longer fight, he was sent back home to his family. The whole family would dress him up in baby clothes. (Which pretty much meant that he was wearing a dress, made changing easier) Including diapers, which he used, and was treated like a baby until he was able to take care of himself. I don't really know why the Romans went through such extravagent ways to go through the healing process, perhaps the warrior was changing social class because of his wounds and needed to start over. Or maybe the Romans really like diapers as a culture.

But thats the oldest I've seen it. But it would also depend on your definition of infantillism. ANR (Adult nursing realtionship, an adult female breastfeeding an adult male or female) has been around for as long as people have liked breasts and what comes out of them.
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I think infintalism has been around alog time but, people may not have been a ware that others felt that way too or it was something that people had to keep hidden.
but i think that their have been people through histiry that felt more like a baby the an adult.
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