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Originally Posted by handfulofoats

Well, you're really fond of pointing out that Obama doesn't actually tell you want he plans to do, so I'm going to go ahead and give you a list that hopefully you find complete enough to stop using the same god d**n point over and over again. I'll even try and make it look nice and compare it to McCain's plans.

Energy
Obama wants to promote renewable energy and increase production of it so that by 2025, 25% of the nations electricity comes from said renewable resources.

That's great. How does he plan on doing it?

McCain wants to spend that money looking for more places to dig for oil, and with his Alaskan VP choice, probably in the gulf and in the national wilderness of Alaska.

I'd like to point out that until we have all these new nifty ways to move our cars around, we need more oil that doesn't come from overseas.

Health Care
Obama wants to create a program that offers a health plan similar to the current government plan to everyone, with cheap payments and is paid for partially by the government.

Paid for "partially by the government" means paid for by the people that pay taxes. The Government doesn't really have money, it is taxes people to get it, so where is this tax money going to come from?

John McCain wants to make things more affordable by promoting competition between insurance companies.

Competition should drive prices down, but to be honest I don't think this will work. It is too much like the oil companies, not enough competition.

Immigration
Barack Obama believes that making it easier to get into the country legally will help the problem, along with making it possible (but not easy) to pursue citizenship if you're an illegal immigrant in good standing with the country.

Which part of illegal does he not understand? Why should people that broke the law be rewarded, while people that work within the law be penalized?

John McCain wants to build a friggin' wall! I'm trying to keep my cool, but if any GOP member thinks that building a wall is going to work, they're moronic. It's a wall....... walls are made to go around, over, under, through, etc... There has got to be a better way than mortar and brick. Let's go ask the Soviets how well their wall worked.

I always love the "Soviet Wall" theory. First the "Soviet Wall" where there was one, was to keep people in, not out. Second there wasn't much of a wall.

There was a raid in Mississippi earlier this month, and this quote came out of it.
"We have kids without dads and pregnant mothers who got their husbands taken away," said Velez's son, Robert, youth pastor at the church. "It was like a horror story. They got handled like they were criminals."
They are criminals.

And for the final kicker... this issue is another huge issue that makes a candidate:
Iraq.

The Iraqi PM has decreed that the US be out of Iraq in a matter of years, but John McCain would like to ignore that date and occupy a country against its wishes. He also feels Iran is a viable threat to national security and is willing to push diplomacy aside quicker than Obama. All Obama wants to do is get our people out of there: the majority of citizens of our country and the Iraqi people want just that. He believes that Iran can be dealt with without violence and declared Iran "not-a-threat."

Can you supply a quote of McCain saying that he would stay in Iraq longer than Iraqi government wanted? I looked for one and couldn't find one.

If Obama believes that Iran is not a threat, perhaps he should look at the history of Iran since the fall of the Shah. Perhaps he might want to learn what Iran calls the US. As an example, a few years ago Austria, I think, sold Iran a few hundred sniper rifles. The US requested that they not go through with the sale. Within a few weeks of delivery, at least one of these sniper rifles was captured by the British in Iraq. Iran is "not-a-threat," that is a laugh.

Now having said that, do I think that we should initiate military actions against Iran right now, NO. Should we in the future, I can't say, because the future isn't here. Should we try to deal with them without violence, absolutely. Is that possible, I don't know. But I do know that they pose a threat to America and Americans, how big? That I don't know.

I do support Obama, and I do know what he wants to do. Just because you don't pay attention to anyone but your own candidates views doesn't mean there aren't any.

I have been paying attention, and all I get are vague promises, and no explanations of how he is going to do something, or how he is going to pay for something.